Best Boogie for de-tuned Metal

[warped]

Hi,

So I've looked into getting a Recto and I'd say a 2 channel Dual or Triple is at the top of my list as they are supposedly 'smoother and tighter' which is definately what I'm looking for (as opposed to looser/more aggressive)

I have a Maxon OD808 and ISP Decimator, and have generally liked EL34 sounds so I'd experiment with tubes/boost as well.

2 Channel Duals are generally 'the recto' to get from a lot of opinons on here, but for really low tuned Meshugga'ish type tones would a 2 Channel Triple be better?

Would something like an ENGL Powerball or blackmore suit better for the the smooth/tight tones on low tunings?

 

[Elpelotero]

for ultra tight music, an ENGL or a Mark4 would suit you best. I'm not 100% familiar wiht meshuggah's sound, so I can't specify. But don't lock yourself in on a recto completely.

 

[Silverwulf]

"Destroy Erase Improve" - Meshuggah's best tone IMO - was done using 2 channel Dual Rec's.

 

[fpoon]

Meshuggah? Mark IV man, all the way! The Mark IV is heavy, super tight, and is really versatile man it'll suit your influences and playing just fine.

 

[ToneAddictJon]

I would vote for a DR. I swear, you can't ask about amps on this board without the Mark IV's jumping up!!

 

[Platypus]

I would vote for a DR. I swear, you can't ask about amps on this board without the Mark IV's jumping up!!

Well, in their defense.. he DID say he wanted tighter/smoother as opposed to looser/aggressive

 

[Mr_You]

Seems this is exactly the niche the Triple Recto goes for no?

 

[tetsubin]

Dual Caliber 5.

 

[tobytheplatypus]

dont forget Meshuggah has $4000 custom made 8-strings...
i find my triple is alot better for thrash than de-tuned stuff (i play a halfstep down, its awesome, but if i go to drop-c or drop-b it seems too flabby for my taste)

 

[ibanez4life SZ!]

Agreed.....for very low tuning, I would recommend the Mark IV....the rectifier gets way to flubby for my tastes.

 

[wildrat666]

you can´t go wrong with a dual recto if you got a maxon 808 and EL 34´s. it sounds tight and suits low tunings very well. the same thing about a triple recto....just go for it!!!!!!!

 

[decerebrate]

hey i always thought 'shuggah used marshall valvestates for their rhythm tone (well, way back before the 8-strings anyway) and thordendahl used like a soldano and later a pod for his leads.

those guys were my favorite back in the late mid-late 90's early 00's.

thordendahl is scary awesome.

 

[ToneAddictJon]

Agreed.....for very low tuning, I would recommend the Mark IV....the rectifier gets way to flubby for my tastes.

That probably has more to do with the strings and guitar than the amp. Even if your using 11's downtuned to C or B on a regular guitar it's gonna sound loose and flubby. If you get flub, raise your action- don't blame the amp. The DR gets as tight as you want it to, you just have to look at the EQ differently than any other amp.

 

[sgtbaker]

I don't know if you know this.. but Meshuggah uses Line 6.. kinda weird. I would have to say a 2 Channel Recto.. I think the Mark IV would be too tite for Meshuggah's style of music.

 

[Platypus]

I don't know if you know this.. but Meshuggah uses Line 6.. kinda weird. I would have to say a 2 Channel Recto.. I think the Mark IV would be too tite for Meshuggah's style of music.

I think that's their live rig, I have some pictures of their Line 6 racks.. but I'm pretty sure they used a 2CH recto on the actual album

 

[sgtbaker]

They did at one point but I think they're all Line 6 now.

 

[decerebrate]

man that is weird, if theyre using line6. i can't stand amp simulation.
then again, i dont really get using an 8 string either.

i always thought they used a marshall 8100 for DEI. I also though Morbid Angel (Trey) used an 8100 on covenant with a rat pedal.

 

[Silverwulf]

They used the Marshall Valvestate Head's live back in day, but "Destroy Erase Improve" was a 2 Channel Dual Recto on the album. In the later years, they started using Line 6 gear.

 

[wildrat666]

they are using line 6 vetta series. I know cause i´m from sweden ha ha

 

[sgtbaker]

Speaking of this Line 6.. has anyone heard of the new Spider Valve amps?? It's supposed to be all tube but digital components as well designed by Bogner.