been considering selling the IV to get a V......

[bryan_kilco]

and I cannot make a decision. I have loved the IV ever since I got it about 5 years ago. But I'm hearing so much good stuff about the V.....Im starting to think about doing the unthinkable....

has anyone else sold the IV to get a V and not looked back?

or, have you done it, then wished you hadnt?

 

[ryjan]

I'm in the same boat man. I'm trying to wait until the used prices drop a little or they come out with a "B" version but I'm GASing like a sumbtch! My buddy has one that I didnt like at first but the more I play along side him with my IV, the more I'm noticing the differences. And I like them! :twisted:

 

[bryan_kilco]

what kinda differences can you describe?

I play mainly metal, but a lot of other stuff too. so, I'm usually on Rhy3, with some occasional Rhy 1 and 2 in there.

I just dont know if I should sell my great, discontinued amp (that hasnt worked properly since I bought it...which is why I want NEW, not used) that has treated me great for so many years for something I havent even played yet.

but then again, I didnt play the IV before I bought it, and loved it.

 

[lesterpaul]

please...play one first!!if you are a metalhead/gainiac, and you dig your IV, you owe it to yourself to do some homework, relax, compare the two before you do like others here and become a jaded Boogieman!!I personally like the V's versatility vs. the IV, but I play virtually all styles, not just a couple...you can find me on chan 1 and 2 more than anything..but I am nOT gonna say the IV "sucks, blows,slays,is lame,etc" because it isnt fair- just because I like the V better doesnt mean the IV sucks..(kind of takes you back to high school,huh??)I wouldnt listen to too many here on the BB regarding the IV vs V vs blah..because its mostly opinion/personal/sometimes my amp rules-yours sux mentality...now, get out there and demo some amps!!

 

[bryan_kilco]

what really sucks is - I'd have to drive about 2 hours to even get to the nearest Boogie dealer which is in Philly.

=/

I never see anything my Mesa in the GC.

 

[lesterpaul]

it would be worth it!make a day out of it..road trip!

 

[ryjan]

what kinda differences can you describe?

I play mainly metal, but a lot of other stuff too. so, I'm usually on Rhy3, with some occasional Rhy 1 and 2 in there.

I just dont know if I should sell my great, discontinued amp (that hasnt worked properly since I bought it...which is why I want NEW, not used) that has treated me great for so many years for something I havent even played yet.

but then again, I didnt play the IV before I bought it, and loved it.

What I hear is the V sounds fuller and more articulate at higher saturation. Where the IV gets flubby or fizzy, the V gets bolder and thicker. It's hard to explain. I guess the easiest way to say it is that the V has more useable gain. Even when you dime the gain in extreme with the eq and bright switch on you can still hear the notes. The same setting on my IV sounds harsh and mashed together.

 

[bryan_kilco]

hmm. yeah that is one thing i disliked about the IV, was the mushy-ness and fizzyness. I normally run gain and drive at 7-8.

im all for what you described.

 

[ryjan]

Like any other amp though, it has its own vioce. Distinctly Mark sound but different. I didnt like my triaxis for about a month until I tweaked it enough to figure out how the damned thing worked and the same with my IV. So I dont know if going to the store and demoing the V would help much. I just have faith in boogie enough to blindly buy any of their amps and dicking with it until I figure it out. They all sound great to me once you get them dialed in to your taste.

 

[bryan_kilco]

Like any other amp though, it has its own vioce. Distinctly Mark sound but different. I didnt like my triaxis for about a month until I tweaked it enough to figure out how the damned thing worked and the same with my IV. So I dont know if going to the store and demoing the V would help much. I just have faith in boogie enough to blindly buy any of their amps and dicking with it until I figure it out. They all sound great to me once you get them dialed in to your taste.

really, i didnt have much of a hard time dialing in the IV. I dont understand why so many people say it takes soooo long.

I mean, of course, there are almost endless tones, but I'm pretty confident in myself to be able to set it up without even hearing a single note and have it sound decent. God **** I really want to try one of these things!!!!

 

[ryjan]

When I first got my IV it sounded great but I didnt truely LOVE it until I tweaked on it for a few weeks and really got to know its potential. I've done this with all the boogie amps that I've played. :lol: There is just so many combos on the Mark IV. 6L6-EL34, pentode-triode, class a-simul, hell you have 10 different amps with the gain knobs alone. I kinda went through the same process with my buddies V. He has no clue on how to get his sound so I come over and help him tweak so I've gotten a lot of hands on with the V. Like I said before, I'm trying to wait and get a good used price or a version b or +.

 

[bryan_kilco]

yeah I guess you are right....

I had no use for Rhy2 until maybe like a year ago, I finally just started messing with it and love the more vintage-ish tones.

My Lead Channel eqs havent worked properly since I got the thing. I get awesome tones out of it but I am definitely missing something....

 

[JohnDNJ]

yeah I guess you are right....

I had no use for Rhy2 until maybe like a year ago, I finally just started messing with it and love the more vintage-ish tones.

My Lead Channel eqs havent worked properly since I got the thing. I get awesome tones out of it but I am definitely missing something....

If you pop a mxr 10 band eq into your loop you can get r2 to sound pretty much anyway you want. I have mine setup
to sound like a cranked Marshall-esque crunch tone and it just rocks hard.

 

[bryan_kilco]

yeah I guess you are right....

I had no use for Rhy2 until maybe like a year ago, I finally just started messing with it and love the more vintage-ish tones.

My Lead Channel eqs havent worked properly since I got the thing. I get awesome tones out of it but I am definitely missing something....

If you pop a mxr 10 band eq into your loop you can get r2 to sound pretty much anyway you want. I have mine setup
to sound like a cranked Marshall-esque crunch tone and it just rocks hard.

well, i made the mistake of buying some rack gear that i rarely ever used. I got a 31-band eq that i messed with for a bit, but ended up bypassing it. im trying to sell some stuff and get another rack kit one day.

 

[JohnDNJ]

yeah I guess you are right....

I had no use for Rhy2 until maybe like a year ago, I finally just started messing with it and love the more vintage-ish tones.

My Lead Channel eqs havent worked properly since I got the thing. I get awesome tones out of it but I am definitely missing something....

If you pop a mxr 10 band eq into your loop you can get r2 to sound pretty much anyway you want. I have mine setup
to sound like a cranked Marshall-esque crunch tone and it just rocks hard.

well, i made the mistake of buying some rack gear that i rarely ever used. I got a 31-band eq that i messed with for a bit, but ended up bypassing it. im trying to sell some stuff and get another rack kit one day.

Not necessary..try the mxr 108, leave the mids flat and just raise the bass and treble side sliders a bit to taste..punch the gain slider up about 4-6dbs'
and crank the gain(and pull) and the treble knob on the amp and set the geq like a normal V again with the mid set to the middle line or a bit below.
You can make it sound pretty much however you want. I have a BB preamp coming as well and run everything through an rjm-16 switcher so basically
I have any combination of tones you could possibly want instantly available.

 

[4406cuda]

and I cannot make a decision. I have loved the IV ever since I got it about 5 years ago. But I'm hearing so much good stuff about the V.....Im starting to think about doing the unthinkable....

has anyone else sold the IV to get a V and not looked back?

or, have you done it, then wished you hadnt?

I sold my triaxis/2:90/G Force/Ground Control Pro and have not looked back. I am very happy with my decision and it did take a lot of tweaking, only because there are so many voices and options available. I haven't tried different tubes yet.

 

[primal]

Where the IV gets flubby or fizzy, the V gets bolder and thicker.

You sure it's a Mark IV and not a Recto you have? (Note: I'm not being serious here. I know you probably realize that, but you would be surprised)

As long as I have the bass at 4 or below, I have never heard the Mark IV get flubby and absolutely never heard it get fizzy.

I am thinking of selling my Road King (version 1) since I don't use it at much as my Mark IV. I love the Road King, just doesn't fit my style as much as the Mark IV.

I have emailed people who own both amps (Mark IV and Mark V,not sold one to get the other, still own both amps), and fairly consistently they have said that Channels 1 and 2 demolish R1 and R2 on the Mark IV, but that channel 3 is not as thick as the lead channel on the Mark IV. I have also read that the graphic EQ on the V is not nearly as responsive as the graphic EQ on the earlier Marks.

I am going to have to hear it for myself though.

Regardless, at this point I will not sell my IV to fund a V. I would sell the RK first.

I as well am puzzled when I read about people saying the Mark IV takes a lot of time to dial in.

Took me 5 minutes till I was blown away by the tone.

 

[ryjan]

I'm not sold on ch.1 being better on the V. I run ch.1 on my IV with the bright pulled and just some chorus in the loop and it sound very glassy and full. But I agree that ch.2 is better on the V.

 

[lesterpaul]

I'm not sold on ch.1 being better on the V. I run ch.1 on my IV with the bright pulled and just some chorus in the loop and it sound very glassy and full. But I agree that ch.2 is better on the V.

chan 1 on V has more versatility-if nothing else, dime chan vol and gain on tweed and see what I mean(MEAN! :twisted: )

 

[Fronzil]

why fix it if it ain't broken..so to speak..im in tone heaven right now..i agree it took 5 mins to get tones i love, but every day i learn how to run effects into my IV better, dial it in just a tad more precise using many variations of the push/pull knobs and the different sounds coming when you change the power / wattage setting etc... wouldn't imagine of selling the IV ever at this point..that being said, the V is definitely intriguing.