Are rectos too bassy...

[alex1fly]

for certain guitar/pickup combinations, such as Les Paul/SuperDistortion? I find myself running the bass on my Roadster almost always around zero even with my alder strat and singles, but I'm intrigued by the SuperD/LP being such a classic combo.

 

[fender_212]

on my dial rectifier 3 channel the channel 2 is nice and bassy I like it, but on channel 3 it seems to be more trebaly if thats a word and I have both channels set the same. when I turn the bass up on channel 3 it doesn't change much.

I have a fender tom delonge strat with the seymour duncan invader. it's a high output humbucker

 

[ibanez4life SZ!]

Exactly why I left the rectifier series...always sounded overly bassy and muddy to my ears.

 

[vertigo_]

Exactly why I left the rectifier series...always sounded overly bassy and muddy to my ears.

and got a 90's sounding mark IV....just kidding!

 

[ToneAddictJon]

Recto's are very sensitive to guitars, pickups, and cabs more so than most amps, which allows for a huge variety of sound, but you have to build your setup around the recto, they are not plug and play with the average setup!! Mark IV's seem to always sound like Mark IV's no matter what you play through them, which may be a good thing, but POD's do the same thing
Sorry, I love to give the "mark IV's are the perfect amp" crowd a hard time.

 

[Platypus]

Recto's are very sensitive to guitars, pickups, and cabs more so than most amps, which allows for a huge variety of sound, but you have to build your setup around the recto, they are not plug and play with the average setup!! Mark IV's seem to always sound like Mark IV's no matter what you play through them, which may be a good thing, but POD's do the same thing
Sorry, I love to give the "mark IV's are the perfect amp" crowd a hard time.

Gonna have to disagree there, all 4 of my guitars sound completely different through my Mark IV with the same exact settings. The Recto as well.

Some of my guitars sounded terrible with the Recto however, this is not the case with the Mark :idea:

 

[Barry]

ROV's have tons of bass in them . I left the recto series for that reason .

 

[danvortex]

i find them too bassy but if you put a good overdrive in front of it and you won't beleive it. The OD must be set gain=0, drive= from 5 to 10 to your taste, tone= from 5 to 10 to your taste. You would also need a noise gate to play a DR with that set up. I play metal and i have tried many OD and i got the best results from an MXR Zack Wyld. Guys from other bands and soundmans at our shows often ask me how the hell i get such a tone...
This is what i have learned from other players who had great tones, most of them did this

 

[vertigo_]

Recto's are very sensitive to guitars, pickups, and cabs more so than most amps, which allows for a huge variety of sound, but you have to build your setup around the recto, they are not plug and play with the average setup!! Mark IV's seem to always sound like Mark IV's no matter what you play through them, which may be a good thing, but POD's do the same thing
Sorry, I love to give the "mark IV's are the perfect amp" crowd a hard time.

LOL

 

[wildrat666]

you must tight the dual recto with an overdrive or switch off the loop. switch tubes and play the amp loud. still too bassy buy another amp!!!

 

[kingster911]

why would you switch the loop off? the loop has another type of master on it on the back to give you even more gain. i think the best bet for the rectos is an eq pedal. does anyone make like a rack eq? thatd be sweet.

 

[123thefirst]

+1

IMO the single thing that will most change the character of anything in the Recto series is to put an EQ in front and especially boost the mid and taper down the highs and lows. The V30's in the over-sized Recto cabinet really accentuate the already bassiness and fullness of the pre-amp circuit. But I wouldn't want to give up the nice vintage thump they provide.

As a complete opposite to the typical Boogie mid scoop, it's worthwhile as an experiment to try to cop the intense mid range bark of guitars in Kansas from the Leftoverture album for example. The amp's tone controls will only get you in the ball park. There are a lot of rack EQ's. A 31 band unit will give you nearly complete tone crafting options.

 

[Rocky]

I have never found that the Mark IV always sounds like a Mark IV. To my ear they are one of the more transparent Mesa amps and different guitars really speak well through a MIV.

Rectifiers? I agree that they are overly low endy. I used to have a Rectoverb head and it was just to woofy. Even with tube changes and cabinet experiments it was to low endy and didnt have the clarity that I want in an amp. Much happier with a Stiletto.

 

[MusicManJP6]

I'm hoping the Roadster head I am trading my Mark IV head for will sound good through my thiele cabs... Any thoughts?

 

[alex1fly]

Haha, I didn't mean to start a recto-bashing thread; I was just wondering if any combos *in particular* were overly bassy, not if rectos are too bassy in general

 

[ToneAddictJon]

Recto's are very sensitive to guitars, pickups, and cabs more so than most amps, which allows for a huge variety of sound, but you have to build your setup around the recto, they are not plug and play with the average setup!! Mark IV's seem to always sound like Mark IV's no matter what you play through them, which may be a good thing, but POD's do the same thing
Sorry, I love to give the "mark IV's are the perfect amp" crowd a hard time.

Gonna have to disagree there, all 4 of my guitars sound completely different through my Mark IV with the same exact settings. The Recto as well.

Some of my guitars sounded terrible with the Recto however, this is not the case with the Mark :idea:

I was just joking
I think it's time we start bashing the Mark IV's, the recto's have had their fair share already :wink:

 

[daveyboy]

Way too much bass. Ended up selling my Recto and getting a Mark IV for my Polka band. Sounds great but I have to use a bad monkey o'drive for the really swinging parts!!

Obviously joking.

That said, I dont find my Dual too bassy with an LP. I'm not using a ton of gain though either. Usually right around noon, whatever channel, sometimes a bit more or even a bit less.

Could be how your p/ups are set as well. I like the bass side a bit lower than the treble.

Good luck.

-dave

 

[MetalMatt]

I was just joking
I think it's time we start bashing the Mark IV's, the recto's have had their fair share already :wink:

Amen Brother!

My RK is depressed from all the Recto bashing. THANKS ALOT GUYS! :lol:

 

[Platypus]

Recto's are very sensitive to guitars, pickups, and cabs more so than most amps, which allows for a huge variety of sound, but you have to build your setup around the recto, they are not plug and play with the average setup!! Mark IV's seem to always sound like Mark IV's no matter what you play through them, which may be a good thing, but POD's do the same thing
Sorry, I love to give the "mark IV's are the perfect amp" crowd a hard time.

Gonna have to disagree there, all 4 of my guitars sound completely different through my Mark IV with the same exact settings. The Recto as well.

Some of my guitars sounded terrible with the Recto however, this is not the case with the Mark :idea:

I was just joking
I think it's time we start bashing the Mark IV's, the recto's have had their fair share already :wink:

lol that went right over my head :lol:

 

[vertigo_]

Well yesterday I saw a video of mark tremonti's guitar rig:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpcB7ZUEWV8

And here was his triple recto's setup

Bass: 10
Treble: 6
Mids: 4
Gain: 6
Presence: 3/3.5

People might say...bass at 10, **** thats like super muddy/bassy. But if you listen to his live tone - at least to me it doesn't sound bassy, sounds AWESOME.

I think the problem is not with recto...the problem is people liking the mark distortion but then gets a recto and tries to make it sound like a mark. I know a lot people think rectos are the only mesa amps. So please find out first if u like the famous recto tone then get one.