Anyone wish they could run multiple Mark Vs?

[screamingdaisy]

I do.

One for low gain on all three channels...

One for high gain on all three channels...


And on a side note, the Mark Vs ability to dial in the feel of a compressed power amp using it's tone controls is blowing me away.

 

[Shaner30]

Yes,

Id run one head on fat, crunch, extreem and the other on tweed, mark 1, and mark iv (or iic+ depending on mood). Or just get a 3rd head. That solves all problems.

 

[LPJunky]

As Shaner30 said that's exactly what I would do. This amps driving me crazy with the possibilities. I'm totally unstable and can't settle on a fix setup.

Hi! my name is Stefan and I've own ONLY ONE MkV for 14 months now. I think I have a problem......

 

[ryjan]

I do.

One for low gain on all three channels...

One for high gain on all three channels...


And on a side note, the Mark Vs ability to dial in the feel of a compressed power amp using it's tone controls is blowing me away.

Is this your first Mark amp?

 

[Anonymous]

Yes,

Id run one head on fat, crunch, extreem and the other on tweed, mark 1, and mark iv (or iic+ depending on mood). Or just get a 3rd head. That solves all problems.

3 mark V's... check this guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXhdRkeo0FM

i am jealous

 

[screamingdaisy]

Is this your first Mark amp?

Nope.

 

[ryjan]

Is this your first Mark amp?

Nope.

Right on, so do you think the V's tone controls dial in that much different than the IV's?

 

[SteveO]

I started seriously thinking about it after I bought a G-System. The G-S can handle all the switching for both heads, and can select either preamp through two loops. Then, stereo outs to both power sections.

Yes, I have thought about it!

 

[jjboogie]

I did on my July 4th gig! Although I slaved out one amp into the other so I could just have one footswitch controller.

 

[SteveO]

I did on my July 4th gig! Although I slaved out one amp into the other so I could just have one footswitch controller.

Yeah, standing there lookin' all calm and serious, I bet you had a big ol' grin on your face as soon as you fired it up!

 

[kiff]

I'd settle to run just one mark 5

3 mark V's... check this guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXhdRkeo0FM

i am jealous

the man is truly dedicated :lol:

 

[screamingdaisy]

Is this your first Mark amp?

Nope.

Right on, so do you think the V's tone controls dial in that much different than the IV's?

Never had a Mark IV. Briefly had a Mark IIA and used a Mark III for a year or two.

To answer your question, channel 3 dials in exactly like a Mark amp. The numbers on the dials aren't exactly the same as what I would've used on the Mk III, but the gist of it is the same.

What I find the most interesting is channels 1 and 2. I can do the traditional 'Mark' clean tone using Fat... but I can scoop it or have it full of mids with the flip of a switch. Or... I can flip over to Tweed (45w/tube), dial the gain and mids up and have some serious garage rock Fender sounds. Or kick over to Edge and have some wicked Brit type sounds.

But here's the thing that's really blowing my mind right now. I have Edge set up so that it's running out of headroom and overdriving on the 5th and 6th strings, yet clean on the higher strings. It's some seriously squishy overdrive tones, and I'm not running the **** amp hot enough to achieve those sounds via the power tubes. I have no clue how Mesa managed to dial in a preamp to run out of headroom trying to pass bass like it's a vintage power amp, but it's really fucking cool.

Long story short, now that I'm experimenting more with lower gain sounds I'm finding that with some creativity I can get 'overdrive' sounds and (more importantly) feel from the preamp, and that the power amp is (for the most part) simply amplifying them.... which means I'm not dependant on amp volume to achieve the overdrive sounds I'm after.

The only problem is that I can only dial in one sound per channel at a time.

 

[jjboogie]

Yeah, standing there lookin' all calm and serious, I bet you had a big ol' grin on your face as soon as you fired it up!

Most definitely!!!! :mrgreen:

 

[Deadfall]

Yes,

Id run one head on fat, crunch, extreem and the other on tweed, mark 1, and mark iv (or iic+ depending on mood). Or just get a 3rd head. That solves all problems.

3 mark V's... check this guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXhdRkeo0FM

i am jealous

rofl...3 mark Vs and and goddamn hellraiser...go figure

 

[golfnguitarz]

And on a side note, the Mark Vs ability to dial in the feel of a compressed power amp using it's tone controls is blowing me away.

In all seriousness, enlighten me a little on this. I mean, I understand how, for instance, on channel 3 it gets a kinda compressed feel as you increase the gain, but I am not sure I follow you on this with the tone controls... but I wanna learn. Thanks.

 

[SteveO]

And on a side note, the Mark Vs ability to dial in the feel of a compressed power amp using it's tone controls is blowing me away.

In all seriousness, enlighten me a little on this. I mean, I understand how, for instance, on channel 3 it gets a kinda compressed feel as you increase the gain, but I am not sure I follow you on this with the tone controls... but I wanna learn. Thanks.

The tone controls come before the preamp gain stages, so by increasing the mids and bass you are hitting the 12ax7s harder, causing them to compress more. The treble control acts as a second gain control to some degree, too. It is also interactive with the mid and bass controls, so adding treble decreases the signal going to the mids and bass and vice-versa. This is why minor adjustments can have a major effect, and also why some people complain about Boogies being hard to dial in.

 

[screamingdaisy]

And on a side note, the Mark Vs ability to dial in the feel of a compressed power amp using it's tone controls is blowing me away.

In all seriousness, enlighten me a little on this. I mean, I understand how, for instance, on channel 3 it gets a kinda compressed feel as you increase the gain, but I am not sure I follow you on this with the tone controls... but I wanna learn. Thanks.

The tone controls come before the preamp gain stages, so by increasing the mids and bass you are hitting the 12ax7s harder, causing them to compress more. The treble control acts as a second gain control to some degree, too. It is also interactive with the mid and bass controls, so adding treble decreases the signal going to the mids and bass and vice-versa. This is why minor adjustments can have a major effect, and also why some people complain about Boogies being hard to dial in.

In addition, I've found that in channel 2 (particularily Edge, but I've noticed in Crunch and Mark 1) upping the bass and midrange increases the OD/Distortion effect within those ranges... so (for instance) in Edge mode you can up the bass a little too much and sag/brown the sound of that channel like you're driving the piss out of some little amplifier... ie, you get relatively clear OD on the higher notes, but dropping down to the 5th and 6th strings kills the headroom and browns the sound out.

Combine that effect with the ability to drop the headroom down to 45w and slow the response with the tube rectifier and you have some pretty crazy effects available at lower volumes.

Older Marks had some abiilty to do this on the preamp side but very little ability to exert any influence on the power amp side... thus you could dial in certain sounds on the preamp side but the power amp couldn't really be dialled in to bring out the best in those settings like it can on the Mark V.

 

[golfnguitarz]

Ok, thanks SteveO and ScreamingDaisy. I'm gonna pay a little more attention when I tweak, good info.