2ch Dual or Trem-o-Verb

[muramasa]

Hey I just sold my Single rec because I need more headroom, so I'm thinking about getting a 2ch Dual or a Trem-o-verb. No one on Craigslist has a 2ch or Trem for me to try, and I went to guitar center and played a 3ch Dual but i've heard the 2ch sounds different. I've looked on Youtube for clips but everyone has a different recording quality and they sound the same. I'm buying on Ebay so I won't have a chance to try either out. I was wondering if any one here has tried both and what your thoughts about them were. I mainly play modern rock like Seether, Tool, Hurt, Smile Empty Soul and Flyleaf but, I still use my clean channel. I'm open to other suggestions, I have about $1200 to spend

Thanks

 

[stephen sawall]

"I was wondering if any one here has tried both and what your thoughts about them were"


Both what ?

Tremoverb and 2ch
or
2ch and 3ch

 

[Commander Coo1]

i have owned a 2 channel from 1998, and now i have a 1994 t-verb, i prefer the t-verb, the clean is much better, i got a good clean out of the 2ch using a reverb/delay and a compressor, but the t-verb doesnt need it although a small amount of delay still sounds nice. but the t-verb doesnt seem to have as much clean headroom, it tends to break up kinda early. the 2nd channels are pretty similar, the t-verb seems a little smoother, im sure you can just eq them differently to get the same sound from both. blues mode is a cool extra to have, if you want you can actually set the red channel up for cleans if you like the gain on orange better.
Summary: t-verb is more versitile imo and has a little less clean headroom, a much better clean sound, and slightly smoother sound.

 

[stephen sawall]

+ 1 - my Tremoverb has much better cleans than any other DR I have played thru.

I would take a Tremoverb over any other Recto.

 

[Elpelotero]

Both the tremoverb and 2ch's have very similar modern modes (the high gain channel). Depending on which revision of the 2ch you get there will be some differences. But any of them will do fine for the music you've listed.

I think the big catch is the exceptional clean on the tverb. It also has that blues mode which isn't found on other rectos. A standard 2ch will only have clean, 2 vintages, and 2 moderns.

The 2ch's overall sound much better than the 3ch's. However they lack the versatility of the newer stuff. If you don't need all the buttons, get the older stuff.

 

[Silverwulf]

I don't think you could go wrong with either one. If you find a great deal on either, you're good to go. You just missed a Tremoverb though. I just sold a mint (literally) '94 head for $1099 shipped... 8)

 

[muramasa]

"I was wondering if any one here has tried both and what your thoughts about them were"


Both what ?

Tremoverb and 2ch
or
2ch and 3ch

Sorry, I ment between the Tremoverb and the 2ch.


Thanks for the replies. I spent all last night trying to find some good demos of the Tverb and 2ch on youtube. I'm really leaning towards the Tverb, but i've come across a good deal on a 2ch Triple. I'm going to try it out today.

I don't think you could go wrong with either one. If you find a great deal on either, you're good to go. You just missed a Tremoverb though. I just sold a mint (literally) '94 head for $1099 shipped... 8)

If that was on Ebay, I saw it but, I was trying to make up my mind on what I want. Another thing I've been reading is that some older Tverbs had a channel switching problem and that the newer ones have a humming issue. If yours was a 94' it must have been one with a hardwired power cord, right? Did you ever have any problems?

 

[Elpelotero]

For tremoverb tone dial up any of the incubus albums science, make yourself, or morning view. The tones progressively get "softer" as you move up the albums. Science is the heaviest, especially track 4.

 

[stephen sawall]

My Tremoverb is from the first run... I never had a problem.

A freind of mine sold his for $800 last year.
He had gone Diezel and it was gone before I knew it was for sale.

Any of the Tri/Dual solo 2 ch or Tremoverb sound good to me.
I just like the Tremoverb more.

It has more and better tones to my ear.
Like said the clean and blues is what makes it.
Plus having trem and rev and there is nice.

Most of them 3ch/Roadking/etc.~ sounded harsh next to mine.

Do try a few tubes in V1 to see what you get.
This tube has the most gain / tone control and let you get your voice from it.
Every amp I have had sounded better with the right tube here.

I like a lot of the Rectifiers.... Tremoverb just sounds best to my ear.

 

[Silverwulf]

If that was on Ebay, I saw it but, I was trying to make up my mind on what I want. Another thing I've been reading is that some older Tverbs had a channel switching problem and that the newer ones have a humming issue. If yours was a 94' it must have been one with a hardwired power cord, right? Did you ever have any problems?

Never was on E-Bay, just on the Classifieds here. It was a '94, attached power cord. I never had any issues with either old Tremoverb I owned.

 

[Commander Coo1]

when i bought my 94 in 07-08, it had major problems with the LDRs, i guess one went, then some idiot tried to fix it and made it worse. i sent it back to mesa and its good now.

 

[macmax]

The actual prices on the Tverb seem to be close to the 1200-1250 ish when they are in good state.
Of course you can find them for less, but you know what you are getting.

 

[vitor gracie]

I have owned both an early T-Verb and a normal (non-pre 500) 2 channel Dual Rec at the same time for 2 years. Anyone will tell you that unless its broken, a T-Verb is always a better choice for a little bit more diversity then a standard 2 channel Dual Rec.

The clean channel on the T-Verb allegedly has a bright cap on it. You can really tell when comparing the 2 amps together for cleans. T-Verb seriously beats the regular 2 channel Recs even thought it breaks up earlier. I simply turned the gain down a bit and the master volume up on the clean and got great results. The cleans on any 2 channel Dual Rec leave much to be desired. I used them both for shows with an A/B box, running cleans and leads through the T-Verb and dry distorted rhythm sounds through the 2 channel and it was perfect. Just a pain in the a$$ to haul 2 rigs so I got a Roadster to replace them both.

You wont regret the T-Verb...trust us.

P.s. that early break up on the clean can actually be used for an overdrive sound that is reminicient of an older Marshall, its ugly and awesome sounding. You can also (as stated above) use both the Red and Orange modes for differently EQ'ed cleans. Red is very crisp with lots of lows and scooped mids, and the Orange is smoother sounding. This option combined with the Bold/Spongy switch and Rectifier setting really gives you a great pallet of colors for your cleans. Its also helpful when using very different guitars for the studio (ie: Strat's single coils with Orange setting, LP's humbuckers with Red)

 

[muramasa]

Ok so I got my amp 2 days ago and its......................... a 2ch Triple Rectifer. Thanks for all the help but I found a really good price on this Triple at a music go round in Wisconsin. I had them ship it to me and its fantastic. I got it because it has more headroom and thats what I really wanted. I admit the clean was not that great untill I put some newer 12ax7's in that I had lying around. The preamp tubes were the old logoless mesa that look like someone just painted the word mesa on them. I'm going to replace the power tubes here in the next few days. The 6L6's logos have gone from white to brown. I'll have the whole thing retubed by next weekend. I'll put up some pictures later tonight and some clips later this week.

P.S. I opened it up and the initials ER were on the circuit board and MB on the chassy with the date 07/00. I know who MB is but what about ER?

 

[muramasa]

Here you go my 2000 Triple rectifier

 

[stephen sawall]

Very cool.
Make sure you keep the old tubes as spares

 

[James Lugo]

I had a Tremoverb and I now have a 2 channel Dual (rack). The Dual sounds fiercer then my old Tremoverb. I had made a record years ago with a Tremoverb that came out great but the one I bought never really crushed me. 2 channel dual's are pretty evil. :twisted:

 

[stephen sawall]

That the funny thing about the Rectifiers ....
I never found a other Tremoverb that sounds like mine.
You can have two Rectifiers that look the same and one well sound much better than the other ?

There are models that have better odds......

That stack of amps looks very cool.

 

[halfnote]

I agree 100%. I have owned a Lonestar V2, Stiletto Trident, and two Roadster combos. Right now I have a three channel DR that I only picked up because I got a good deal on it. I really didn't think I was going to like it that much, figuring the gain would be the same as my roadsters(fizzy with an almost staticy presence). I actually didn't really use the max gain channels on them because of it. I would just push one of the lower gain settings with a compresor.
HOWEVER, this DR is the best I have ever heard. All the gain stages are totally useable and the clean is really not bad, just requires a little color. All that being said I am trading my DR for a Tremoverb. Because even though I love my DR, the TOV is the best sounding mesa I have ever heard.
Peace,
and long live the Tremoverb
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[halfnote]

I agree 100%. I have owned a Lonestar V2, Stiletto Trident, and two Roadster combos. Right now I have a three channel DR that I only picked up because I got a good deal on it. I really didn't think I was going to like it that much, figuring the gain would be the same as my roadsters(fizzy with an almost staticy presence). I actually didn't really use the max gain channels on them because of it. I would just push one of the lower gain settings with a compresor.
HOWEVER, this DR is the best I have ever heard. All the gain stages are totally useable and the clean is really not bad, just requires a little color. All that being said I am trading my DR for a Tremoverb. Because even though I love my DR, the TOV is the best sounding mesa I have ever heard.
Peace,
and long live the Tremoverb
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