2 channel triple rec question

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dr.electron

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I have just bought a used 2 channel triple rec head from ebay. I noticed that when I am playing on the orange channel set to modern there is a TON more bass than what is available in the red channel. Is this normal or is there something wrong with my amp? It also seems to have more gain is well, which I find odd considering orange is more of a clean channel. I owned a 2 channel dual rec a few years back and don't remember having this issue with that head. ANy help would be greatly appreciated.
 
I'd start troubleshooting preamp tubes. Replace each one by one with a known good one and see if you get any improvements.
 
I don't care what Mesa says, the two channels do not sound alike and cannot be dialed in to sound exactly the same.

They both have the same amount of low end, but the orange channel has more upper bass and lower mids than the red channel, due to the red channel's lack of negative feedback. The orange channel also has more fizz in the top end, which is why is sounds like there is more gain.
 
Thanks guys. I'm going to retube the amp since I bought it used.

Another thing I've noticed is when I have the effects loop on and I turn the loop knob on the front of the amp up or down there is a "poping" noise that really bothers me. Does this sound like a preamp tube issue?

Thanks!
 
Not likely. If a pot crackles and pops when you turn it, it means that either pot is dirty, or that DC voltage is leaking onto it - which means that a cap must have failed in this case since neither side of the pot is directly connected to a tube. Tubes won't be the problem with the large difference between the channels either - all the tubes are in use all the time on both channels. It probably won't hurt to try changing them, but it's unlikely to fix the problem.

I find with my Tremoverb that how close you can get the channels to each other depends on what settings you have and what you're aiming for - with some settings (mostly the tighter, less bassy, crunchy Marshall-like ones) you can get it very close, to the point that you can switch back and forth and not really be able to tell which channel you're on. With others, less so, since as mikey said the problem of both presence controls still operating on the Red channel affects the negative feedback.

But if the channels are really *substantially* different no matter what you do, there may be a switching LDR out in the parts of the circuit that control the channel cloning - my Tremoverb was like that when I got it, the Red channel would not properly clone to vintage so it remained sounding very different. All the pots on it were very crackly too, and it was simply a matter of contact cleaner/lubricant to fix them.
 
This is probably apples to oranges but on my 3ch Triple the orange channel is the same way. The only time I run the red channel is with one of my guitars that is so dark that when I plug it in the orange channel behind any of my other guitars I have to seriously dump low end and crank high end. Right now I have the red channel set to where when I plug this guitar in and engage the red channel, it's pretty close to how my other guitars sound on the orange channel.
 
Thanks 94Tremoverb. If it IS a cap failure, is there anything else that I would notice?

Other than the popping noise (which is really loud) and the red channel sounding a bit weaker (which I have fixed for now by running an eq in the loop) I really like the amp...but for the amount of money I paid these 2 issues really bug me.

I will try some contact cleaner and see if this helps.
 
A cap failure is very unlikely, but in that case you would probably notice a sort of scratching/hissing noise as you turn the pot, even when it's not popping. It's far more likely just to be a dirty pot.

Bear with it - even if it costs you some money to fix, these amps are very undervalued in relation to how great they are when they're running right.
 

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