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ned
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CAA OD100-SE+ with dual gain/volume on channel 2. They just sound so sweet.
MesaENGR412
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I would buy used, and I would buy 2 :twisted: . I'd try to get either a 2 or 3 channel dual/triple Recto or Racktifier (have the 3 channel Triple now w/EL-34b's...Love it!) for maybe around $1,100-$1,500 and if I had enough money left over I'd try and find a used Framus Cobra or Dragon for about $1500-$1700 (seen the Cobra on ebay for around $1600 avg a few months ago). I play metal, and these amps are the just the best amps to get the bone crushing tone that I love with razor sharp attack, and very melodic tone structure that cuts through like a hot knife in butter. I also would need a good lead tone because I do a lot of solo work, and these amps can do that well too when set up properly ( i find that it does help to sometimes use a third channel to dedicate to solo/lead work, or just to have 2 distinct rhythm sounds)
if that didn't work, VH4 it'd be for sure!
-AJH
if that didn't work, VH4 it'd be for sure!
-AJH
ned said:
Yes sounds like a great amp although I've only heard great players play through it so that might be the reason it sounds so great :lol:
How about the VHT Pitbull Ultra Lead, Bogner Uberschall and Diezel Herbert, has anyone here tried any of them?
jdurso
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Mesa: Mark V :twisted:
Non-Mesa: Fryette (VHT) Sig X, ENGL SE 6L6, Bogner Uber, Laney VH100R, or Splawn Nitro
Non-Mesa: Fryette (VHT) Sig X, ENGL SE 6L6, Bogner Uber, Laney VH100R, or Splawn Nitro
Good question.
Short answer would be a Mesa 295/395 or Strategy 400/500 for the Quad.
I play many styles of music and Metal is the Mesa department. It took me several years to find the right Boogie as Denmark don't have alot in general to try.
I dig old Marshall tones like Jimi Hendrix, Ritchie Blackmore and so on but one day in 2000 I found my 50watt combo Marshall 1978 by chance. Bought it on the spot. It's model 2104 and its been my alltime favorite Marshall of all I have tried and owened. The amp was used by non other than Thin Lizzy back in the day. Ad a Les Paul and you got it.
At some point someone added an effectsloop right next to the high and low inputs so it looks like a 4 input amp. It took me a while to figure out the model number. The Quad sounds great connected to it.
Short answer would be a Mesa 295/395 or Strategy 400/500 for the Quad.
I play many styles of music and Metal is the Mesa department. It took me several years to find the right Boogie as Denmark don't have alot in general to try.
I dig old Marshall tones like Jimi Hendrix, Ritchie Blackmore and so on but one day in 2000 I found my 50watt combo Marshall 1978 by chance. Bought it on the spot. It's model 2104 and its been my alltime favorite Marshall of all I have tried and owened. The amp was used by non other than Thin Lizzy back in the day. Ad a Les Paul and you got it.
At some point someone added an effectsloop right next to the high and low inputs so it looks like a 4 input amp. It took me a while to figure out the model number. The Quad sounds great connected to it.
colemaneuclid
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Fryette Sig-X, Framus Cobra, then mix them all with my 2ch DR for deadly tone!
zenabI said:
I currently own a Herbert, and owned an Uberschall rev. for about a year (sold it in Dec. 08). Haven't tried the VHT. I play primarily metal-all types from older British stuff through modern, excluding maybe NuMetal-and hard rock, but have been getting more into lower gain and bluesy stuff lately. The Herbert does it all, though at a bit more (new) than $3000, from an excellent clean channel (not just for a high gain amp, but excellent period) through a brutal high gain. Massive low end which stays tight and focused (not as tight as VHT-from what I've heard, haven't played one -or a VH4). Diezels have their own unique tone and distortion character, which you may or may not like. The Uberschall also has a massive low end, and tons of gain, all of which is useable. Clean channel is only so-so, but it does take pedals wall. Also, the Uber is fairly loose, and has a more organic type distortion, vs Herberts more hi-fi distortion. It's also a bit less than $3000. The Herbert is the more versatile of the two, and I personally prefer the Diezel voicing to anything else I've tried when it comes to high gain.
clutch71
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Marshall JMP 2204 MkII
Rev F or Earlier 2ch Dual Recto
Mark IV
Hughes and Kettner Mark II Triamp
Orange Rockerverb 100
Rev F or Earlier 2ch Dual Recto
Mark IV
Hughes and Kettner Mark II Triamp
Orange Rockerverb 100
richt1760 said:
Thanks man, well I'm looking into buying the Herbert, I really liked what I've heard from it and for me it's costs under "$3000" (not on paper but in reality, taxes and all that **** u know) since I live in Europe. I don't really think VHT is my amps, I like tight low end but they seem to be too dry? I haven't heard any good lead clips of it (without fx). Herbert or ENGL SE (EL34) seems to be more my thing, although ENGL can be a little too compressed at times, how is the Herbert as far as compression goes?
zenabI said:
Yeah, the lack of import tariffs within the EU will certainly help u with the Herbert's price tag.
As far as compression, channel 3, the lead channel, can get fairly compressed as you increase the gain past around 1 or 2 o'clock. With the gain dimed, its pretty compressed, but other than that, I don't feel its an overly compressed channel at all. Its the most fluid and organic sounding channel as well, and the best suited (IMO) for high gain leads. Ch 2+ has a little less gain than ch 3, but is tighter, drier, and less compressed. Not as tight or nearly as dry as VHT, though. It still has a ton of useable gain, though.
212Mavguy
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If I had the coin I'd roll the dice on the new Mark V as a head as a matter of faith... I'd use the lower plate voltage setting and run old glass in it. Wouldn't tell anyone I was doing that until after the warranty expires... :twisted: :mrgreen:
xrisj
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honestly, I'd buy the MkV with a nice 2/12 cab. From what I'm reading, it's an great value at $2k. Sad news is I don't have the cash, so I'll get nothing and like it... :?
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Bogner Ecstasy 101b. I bought this thing a little over a month ago for $2400 used, and it's everything I'd hoped for. However, it's not my end all, be all amp; I just love the way the XTC and my TR work together in different recording situations.
It'll cover nearly any style out there with excellence, but the reason I bought it was for the rich, organic tones. If you've never played through a 101b, you're missing out. I chose this over the Diezels because to me, it has the ultimate lead tone - whereas my TR is the ultimate rhythm sound. Now, these are for my needs and not based on what the masses like, so I can't speak for anyone else. But when it comes to me, if I had $3k to spend, I'd get an XTC if I didn't already have one.
It'll cover nearly any style out there with excellence, but the reason I bought it was for the rich, organic tones. If you've never played through a 101b, you're missing out. I chose this over the Diezels because to me, it has the ultimate lead tone - whereas my TR is the ultimate rhythm sound. Now, these are for my needs and not based on what the masses like, so I can't speak for anyone else. But when it comes to me, if I had $3k to spend, I'd get an XTC if I didn't already have one.
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A Budda Superdrive 45, or Mojave Scorpion or Demeter Tga 100. One more: CAE OD100SE. I love my Dual, had a Lone Star Classic (Not enough gain) My F-30 is cool, Looking for more of a one or two channel hard rock/metal/heavy blues amp. Think Joe Bonnamassa meets 80's Gary Moore. (Love Marshall, wont own one again)
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