xdg999 said:The MS-12 is my favorite. It's smooth and thick but might be too warm for some players. It pairs nicely with an EV in a 2x12 or 4x12. Warms up the sterile sound of the EV's. Another speaker I really like is the Celestion Redback. Sounds great in a 1x12 combo or 4x12.
xdg999 said:The MS-12 is my favorite. It's smooth and thick but might be too warm for some players. It pairs nicely with an EV in a 2x12 or 4x12. Warms up the sterile sound of the EV's. Another speaker I really like is the Celestion Redback. Sounds great in a 1x12 combo or 4x12.
I recall back in the day people liked the Sidewinders but blew them up. As your speakers have survived so long you should be pretty free of that worry.Hello.
Celestion 1988 Sidewinder S12-150 w 4x12 with paper surrounds T3771
& a 2nd 4x12 with S12 -150w with cloth surrounds T3865.
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Man, I really want one of these. But they are pricey. I was told that this is the Santana tone.Altec 417-8C being a very close second.
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I purchased the Delta Pro 12 A many years ago trying to match the old EVM 12. They're ok. Back then they were generally used for PA speakers. Their specs may have changed by now.My absolute favorite speaker is also the MS-12. I use it with all my Mesa Mark's and with my Fuchs ODS. I literally almost sold my IIb when I was playing it through an EVM 12L. I know some love that speaker, but paired with my IIb, it seemed to either add or bring out this gross/nasty compression in the upper mids. It vanished with the MS-12, and sounded as smooth, creamy, and lyrical as my IIc+
I hear that the current production Eminence Delta Pro 12A is almost the same as the MS-12. I've played through both (played through a Delta when testing my Fuchs), but never A/B'd them. Curious if anyone has.
n.b. - I picked up an Eminence Deltalite II 2512, hoping it would be close to a Delta/MS-12. It actually sounds much closer to an EVM 12L, to my ear.
Many say the EVM 12L and the MS-12/Delta Pro 12a are similar. Maybe it's because they're the only 2 types of speaker I used in the last 10+years, but I find them incredibly different. I always hear top-end fizziness in the EVM's, and no juicy mids (a la the Eminence). Some say you really have to push the EVM's to get them to sing—that could be it.
They are a thing of wonder in the right amp.Man, I really want one of these. But they are pricey. I was told that this is the Santana tone.
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