What speaker is similar to v30 with higher power rating?

[aliebert]

What speaker would you suggest that has similar tone to a v30, but can handle 85 watts? I have a mark iva combo with a C90 in it right now, and the tone isn't quite what I want- the palm mutes are too loose and open, and the sound is kind of flubby. I find that I need to turn the treble and presence up to get the gain tone i want, but then bass is lacking, and dialing up the bass on the amp adds to the 'flub'.

I loved the sound of my 212 recto cab with v30s but I don't want to carry it around anymore. On a suggestion on this board, I've ordered a 1x12 recto with v30, but I'd like to try putting something into the 1x12 closed back with similar tone to the v30 with enough power handling that I can run it in full power/pentode/simul-class without worry. ( i don't want to run the combo speaker + extension speaker because I'd like to switch to a head + single 1x12 cab rig.) What would you guys suggest?

 

[MrMarkIII]

You can avoid "flub" by using the GEQ to bring in more bass, instead of the bass knob. Adding excessive bass (above 3) in the pre-amp on any Boogie adds "flub" to high-gain sounds.
The Graphic is after the pre-amp.
If you're going to run the MkIV at 85 watts, you need a speaker that handles about double 85 watts. Just a rule-of-thumb.
Anybody out there have experience with the high-power Eminence Red Coats?

 

[paytojt]

The Eminence Governor is supposed to sound like a Vintage 30 with less top end. It is 75 watts.

 

[boogiemon]

you might try an EV.

What speaker would you suggest that has similar tone to a v30, but can handle 85 watts? I have a mark iva combo with a C90 in it right now, and the tone isn't quite what I want- the palm mutes are too loose and open, and the sound is kind of flubby. I find that I need to turn the treble and presence up to get the gain tone i want, but then bass is lacking, and dialing up the bass on the amp adds to the 'flub'.

I loved the sound of my 212 recto cab with v30s but I don't want to carry it around anymore. On a suggestion on this board, I've ordered a 1x12 recto with v30, but I'd like to try putting something into the 1x12 closed back with similar tone to the v30 with enough power handling that I can run it in full power/pentode/simul-class without worry. ( i don't want to run the combo speaker + extension speaker because I'd like to switch to a head + single 1x12 cab rig.) What would you guys suggest?

 

[aliebert]

Thanks for the tips guys! The EV is a little too clean and wide sounding for me- great for cleans though. While we're on this topic, I thought I'd share this useful info from the Mark IV Manual about settings and wattage:

Class A + Triode: 30 Watts
Class A + Pentode: 50 Watts
Simul-class + Triode: 70 Watts
Simul-class + Pentode: 85 Watts

What it does not mention however, is what effect if any, using 'tweed' instead of 'full' power has on wattage. Does anyone know?

 

[Dr.StrangeNote]

dup

 

[Dr.StrangeNote]

What speaker would you suggest that has similar tone to a v30, but can handle 85 watts?

Greenbacks??

 

[phyrexia]

quiet strangenote!

tweed cuts the voltage coming into the amp by ~20%. From about 120v to about 95v. it is a separate tap on the transformer.

so I'm sure the wattage changes, but in what way?