Weber Mass 150 - nice!

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Just a heads up that if you're looking for an attenuator, this one's impressing me a lot. I've run my Mark III, my bandmate's Roadster, and a JCM 800 4104 through it.

Verdict: This is not intended to get you to bedroom volume. This is intended to get you from "oh god loud" to below earplug level, and it does a great job of that.

Oddly enough, it likes the Mark III best. Honestly, the only *audible* difference with the low and high attenuation knobs at 5, which would be moderate rehearsal volume, is a bit of "cab thump" that you get at high volume. (This is lead channel, Simul-Class, with the volume on 8, master on 4-5, lead drive on 6-7, lead master on 5, treble and bass shifts and deep out, R2 engaged, and R2 volume on 10, so it's really insanely loud w/o the attenuator.) In terms of playing, there's a bit of extra compression, but you rapidly get used to it. If you crank it down to, say, loud speech volume it sounds pretty bad-- very compressed and weak.

The Roadster combo, I think, depends a little bit on cab thump and sounded a bit thin at the same attenuation levels with the same eq settings as w/o the attenuator. Basically, you will need to re-eq. However, the compression wasn't as noticeable with the Roadster as it was with the Mark, and you could dial it down to almost speaking volume and still have it sound better than it would w/o the attenuator and be nicely playable. Whether there was enough of a difference to make it worth the $200 for the Mass 150, as opposed to just turning the output way down, I'm not sure.

The Marshall didn't do very well; you had to re-eq the amp severely and while it sounded great at medium rehearsal volume the compression felt really extreme, to the point where it was almost like playing with a fuzz pedal. However, if you know a better way to get most of the sound of a JCM800 with the pre and master almost dimed, without playing loud enough to give your dead grandpa a week-long migraine, I'd like to hear it.

The attenuator seems very well-made. It heats up, but less than the amps themselves at these volumes! It has a "direct out" that kicks out a very, very hot signal that sounds all right but I think only an actual mixer board could handle it.

I'd post clips, but I don't actually have the gear to A/B between "good attenuated sound" and "unattenuated." The unattenuated sounds will be way too loud for my I/O device, so it'd be apples and oranges comparisons.

What I can say is that it's definitely a keeper for my Mark III for home practice and quieter rehearsals, but I don't ever need to go down to "bedroom" volumes. I'm now looking for a second one!
 
Thanks for posting that.

Yeah.. the volume thing is a total ***** with guitar isn't it? I've come to the conclusion that a smaller amp is the trick for me these days. I've been using a 20 watter through a 4x12 cab and that works out pretty good.

I've got the Hot Plate for my Stiletto and my JCM800 which works well if I'm not trying to attenuate the signal too much.

You might want to give a smaller amp a try - the sound is a little different but you might like it.
 
Actually, it's not too bad because I don't really *need* to turn down-- my domestic situation is a little more permissive than a lot of guys, I can play at decent volumes more or less as much as I want. (My wife's a pianist so we trade at least an hour of loud a day...) It's mostly a matter of whether or not I want to wear earplugs.

My main rig's actually based on a 20/20, which is a pretty manageable volume. I also use an Epi VJ for just doing scales and stuff. I initially picked up the Mass 150 as a gift for a buddy when he moves into a house-- he's got a toddler-- and now I want one for myself because it takes the Mark III down to non-earplug levels when you have the master at the magical "4".
 
I agree! I have a Mini Mass that I used with the Stiletto Ace and now the Deuce. It's not "exactly" the same as without it, but if you need reasonable volume, it's WAY better than just turning the amp down IMHO. I too tried some of the lower wattage amps but just don't prefer the tone I get. Not to mention that a cranked 10 or 20 watt tube amp is still difficult to stand next to without earplugs. For me, the attenuator is the best solution - understandably not for everyone (disclaimer before people jump up and down and tell me I'm stupid and don't have an ear for tone :wink: )
 
I had a Mass 150 when I had my Legacy as it went from whisper quiet to ungodly loud in about half a degree of volume knob turnage and didn't have a master volume. I sold it when I got my Mark IV as I found that I liked the Mark IV at low volume without it better than with it. It's definitely a well made unit and if I ever get another non-master volume amp I will definitely pick up another one. By the way, if you're using a mini-mass I hope you're only running 25 watts or so or you're likely to blow something up. Amps are rated at max clean power so if you're running 50 watts with a 50 watt attenuator and diming the output you're probably pushing 75 watts or more. Just a heads up. That's actually on the Weber site.
 

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