fluff191
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screamingdaisy said:
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God I have such a bad time with the same thing. I can NOT leave anything alone on the amp settings.
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God I have such a bad time with the same thing. I can NOT leave anything alone on the amp settings.
screamingdaisy
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TheMagicEight said:
I used to think the Recto had a great lead tone... :twisted: ...and then I heard an amp with great lead tone. :shock: Lesson learned.
The Recto's lead tone does improve with EL34s, but I don't think it'll ever be the amp's strong point.
screamingdaisy said:TheMagicEight said:
I used to think the Recto had a great lead tone... :twisted: ...and then I heard an amp with great lead tone. :shock: Lesson learned.
The Recto's lead tone does improve with EL34s, but I don't think it'll ever be the amp's strong point.
I think they do a great lead tone but I dont dig it on modern . Channel 2 vintage does it for me
screamingdaisy
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cheameup said:
I know they'll do it, but I've never been able to get it to consistently work for me. There has been a few times where something happens and it sounds great, but next time I pick up my axe it's gone, despite not touching the dials.
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Heritage Softail said:
SLO a one trick pony? I've learned over the years that GC doesn't have a track record of hiring the most qualified. Typically they're the folks that settle for less. You might have asked him if he'd spent more than 10 minutes with that gem.
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Yeah, the SLO is a one trick pony...
It can only do great tones.
A friend of mine just got one. I'd forgotten what a versatile amp it is - I even loved the clean sound, which often gets a bad rap... it's not a Fender BF clean for sure but it still sounded fantastic.
It can only do great tones
.A friend of mine just got one. I'd forgotten what a versatile amp it is - I even loved the clean sound, which often gets a bad rap... it's not a Fender BF clean for sure but it still sounded fantastic.
YellowJacket
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cheameup said:screamingdaisy said:TheMagicEight said:
I used to think the Recto had a great lead tone... :twisted: ...and then I heard an amp with great lead tone. :shock: Lesson learned.
The Recto's lead tone does improve with EL34s, but I don't think it'll ever be the amp's strong point.
I think they do a great lead tone but I dont dig it on modern . Channel 2 vintage does it for me
I had a similar experience yesterday when I dialed in a high gain tone on my orange channel. The modern channel is much too crisp and defined for leads, the orange channel is far more liquidy and elastic which is great for leads. I was running the amp on (variable high gain) for the orange channel and the channel cloning switch was in the middle position. Yes, the lead tone on the Dual isn't the greatest but the one I found on the orange channel is definitely serviceable.
TheMagicEight: Get those Burstbucker Pros out of that Les Paul FAST! I swapped mine out for Bareknuckle Rebel Yells and it really is a vast improvement ^__^
Speaking of 'one trick ponies' I have heard that criticism of the Mesa Dual Recto many times but when we tried a Dual with a Jackson and then swapped to a Les Paul, it was very obvious that the amp IS influenced by guitars and it not one gigantic processing unit that spits out stock guitar tone. Many guitar salesmen are imbeciles. The world is a better place without them!
Be careful. It may be the other way around. Maybe your first instict to warm/dull the sound is correct. And then maybe your ears are going numb from lengths of loud volume and you feel the need to compensate by brightening it up again.screamingdaisy said:
My old band used to get into volume wars over a similar phenomenon. Both guitars would start off balanced. Then one guy would go deaf and turn up. The other guy would be drowned out and turn up. Then the first guy would...
We eventually figured our balance at rehearsal and marked the volume knob position with marking tape. And we both solemly sweared to keep our knobs pointed to that mark.
Now I use hi-fi ear plugs. They lower the perceived volume but keep everything sounding about the same. It takes a while to get used to them. But my ears feel so much better. And as the gig goes on, I actually hear things more clearly with the plugs in because my ears aren't shutting down.
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There is something to the 'first sounds of the day' syndrome. I can get up Saturday morning, practice for a while and then trurn off the amp and hit the gym for an hour or two. Come back home, turn on the amp and pick up the same guitar and it seems to sound a little different. I just have learned to leave it be, play some warmup exercises and usually I forget about the 'off' sound I thought?? I heard.
I have also gotten some of those ported ear plugs that let some sound in but just cut way back. Those do help greatly with noise.
I have also gotten some of those ported ear plugs that let some sound in but just cut way back. Those do help greatly with noise.
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Sure thing; cut me a check and I'll get it done right away! :lol:YellowJacket said:
In all seriousness, I'm going to switch to BKPs as soon as I can afford them. I'm going for the Black Dog in the bridge, but I want to work on my other guitars first before I think about the neck. Glad to hear you're liking them!
YellowJacket
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Ugg, the neck is such an overlooked pickup. I think the neck was the first reason why I swapped my pickups. The BB Pro neck just was not balanced with the bridge. I really needed a separate EQ for each pickup to make them work with one another. Here is my assessment of the Rebel Yells:
"They just arrived today! I installed them and played with my Dual Recto with EL-34s and my uber warm Thiele 2 x 12. The tone definitely takes some getting used to at first. Being that I usually prefer the rounder more midrange focused sound of Alnico II magnet pickups these are different from that. The best way I can describe it is like they are the same kind of timbre as Burstbucker Pro pickups but better. Think like Tropicana Orange Juice vs Orange Juice made from freshly squeezed oranges. They are both orange juice, but the stuff that is squeezed fresh is simply much better.
Just as the description on the Bareknuckle website says, they are sweeter sounding, more responsive, with a super even response. No frequencies really pop out and stab anyone. I have had to re-eq a few things on my amp but the clean is super rich and far more balanced than the burstbuckers. The neck pickup is not excessively boomy and the bridge is not excessively tinny. They have their very distinct personalities but are definitely usable on the channel. The neck clean is super warm with a buttery midrange and sweet highs. The bridge pickup is bright and twangy, as to be expected. It isn't annoyingly bright like the Burstbucker though.
As for gain, the neck has great note separation and has a sweet lead tone. The bridge is phat like a chainsaw and definitely loves lots of gain. It is so chunky, even, and huge. It makes any mode on my amp literally howl and when I back off the gain or volume knob, the tone cleans up nicely and doesn't get thin like the Burstbucker. I get the impression that with this calibrated pickup set, the idea was to retain the tone of a Les Paul while fixing what was wrong with the Burstbuckers. They do that well. I now have a guitar that loves itself and the amp I'm playing. Overall, there really is this boutique vibe going now and while I really like that vintage Gibson tone, this is definitely cool and unique. By the end of the night I was liking it a lot more and I think it will continue to grow on me!"
When I had a chance to crank up my amp, I liked them even more ^_____^
I don't know if expensive is the right word for them. It is like taking medication to cure GAS: Saves you a few K for different amps and guitars as you search for the missing 'something'. Anyway, I should reiterate, the Burstbucker Pros are not bad pickups. They are good ones. While the aforementioned problems can be remedied by adjusting the pole pieces, I just don't think they work well for what I want to do.
"They just arrived today! I installed them and played with my Dual Recto with EL-34s and my uber warm Thiele 2 x 12. The tone definitely takes some getting used to at first. Being that I usually prefer the rounder more midrange focused sound of Alnico II magnet pickups these are different from that. The best way I can describe it is like they are the same kind of timbre as Burstbucker Pro pickups but better. Think like Tropicana Orange Juice vs Orange Juice made from freshly squeezed oranges. They are both orange juice, but the stuff that is squeezed fresh is simply much better.
Just as the description on the Bareknuckle website says, they are sweeter sounding, more responsive, with a super even response. No frequencies really pop out and stab anyone. I have had to re-eq a few things on my amp but the clean is super rich and far more balanced than the burstbuckers. The neck pickup is not excessively boomy and the bridge is not excessively tinny. They have their very distinct personalities but are definitely usable on the channel. The neck clean is super warm with a buttery midrange and sweet highs. The bridge pickup is bright and twangy, as to be expected. It isn't annoyingly bright like the Burstbucker though.
As for gain, the neck has great note separation and has a sweet lead tone. The bridge is phat like a chainsaw and definitely loves lots of gain. It is so chunky, even, and huge. It makes any mode on my amp literally howl and when I back off the gain or volume knob, the tone cleans up nicely and doesn't get thin like the Burstbucker. I get the impression that with this calibrated pickup set, the idea was to retain the tone of a Les Paul while fixing what was wrong with the Burstbuckers. They do that well. I now have a guitar that loves itself and the amp I'm playing. Overall, there really is this boutique vibe going now and while I really like that vintage Gibson tone, this is definitely cool and unique. By the end of the night I was liking it a lot more and I think it will continue to grow on me!"
When I had a chance to crank up my amp, I liked them even more ^_____^
I don't know if expensive is the right word for them. It is like taking medication to cure GAS: Saves you a few K for different amps and guitars as you search for the missing 'something'. Anyway, I should reiterate, the Burstbucker Pros are not bad pickups. They are good ones. While the aforementioned problems can be remedied by adjusting the pole pieces, I just don't think they work well for what I want to do.
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Hmmmm ....
I have a 96 2 channel DR, and 2010 3 channel newborn, and I think the newborn sounds great! I cant compare it to the previous 3 channels, however. The clean is beautiful, and both channels have excellent useable tone... I think with a decent boost and an EQ pedal I can get 2 channel tones out of it. That is what I am trying next...
But, my personal experience was different, and more favorable towards the newborns.
I have a 96 2 channel DR, and 2010 3 channel newborn, and I think the newborn sounds great! I cant compare it to the previous 3 channels, however. The clean is beautiful, and both channels have excellent useable tone... I think with a decent boost and an EQ pedal I can get 2 channel tones out of it. That is what I am trying next...
But, my personal experience was different, and more favorable towards the newborns.
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Cool review! I actually love the sound of the BB Pro in my Les Paul. I have it set very low, far from the strings, and with thick strings it sounds very, very nice. The bridge pickup I have is a Full Shred, and while it's alright, I think the lead tone could be so much better.YellowJacket said:
