The best for überhighgain

[pmb]

I have been listening to a lot of sample clips of amps. And there are two brands that sound a little bit the same for me: bogner überschall and ENGL (savage 120, powerball, SE). Which one is the best for most of you guys
I already played a überschall a couple of times and found it pretty good,
but not really amazing, I played a powerball and also found it pretty nice (again I found it not amazing), a Savage I only heard at a gig (and in soundclips offcourse) and that one really sounded amazing.

 

[kylek]

VHT pitbull?

 

[pmb]

That one's pretty good too, but I never played it and I don't know if I heard it played by someone else.

 

[Nitrobattery]

I swear by my Savage 120. Flat out amazing tones.

 

[fatboy135]

the savage has really guts, i repair one of them and they are real amazing because the channels are completely independet, they are not in cascade they work in a stand alone mode, real amazing

 

[Guitarzan]

I swear by my Savage 120. Flat out amazing tones.

Engl is very impressive!

 

[Platypus]

Diezel makes some stuff that would fit this catagory

 

[Guitarzan]

Boogie Board FAQ:
http://forum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?t=6704

Nice Addendum there Plat! Good job!

 

[pmb]

Savages really kick ***
I heard someone say powerballs would be more agressive then the savages. I thought that was very strange because when you look at the schematic of the savage it seems to have more gainstages.
The powerball http://www.englampsusa.com/ENGL_Sche...-schematic.pdf
The savage http://www.englampsusa.com/ENGL_Sche...schematics.pdf
Anyone understands those things some better than me
Any comments on überschalls??

 

[Guitarzan]

Savages really kick ***
I heard someone say powerballs would be more agressive then the savages. I thought that was very strange because when you look at the schematic of the savage it seems to have more gainstages.
The powerball http://www.englampsusa.com/ENGL_Sche...-schematic.pdf
The savage http://www.englampsusa.com/ENGL_Sche...schematics.pdf
Anyone understands those things some better than me
Any comments on überschalls??

Uber's are a bit more fizzy in the preamp than Engls. Engl's seem to have a "clean" ot tight preamp.

 

[Nitrobattery]

Savages really kick ***
I heard someone say powerballs would be more agressive then the savages. I thought that was very strange because when you look at the schematic of the savage it seems to have more gainstages.
The powerball http://www.englampsusa.com/ENGL_Sche...-schematic.pdf
The savage http://www.englampsusa.com/ENGL_Sche...schematics.pdf
Anyone understands those things some better than me
Any comments on überschalls??

The Savage is much more aggressive than the Powerball, that's why I bought it. It's amazingly tight and is the only amp other than a Mark IV that I've found that can truly do the whole tonal spectrum. Sparkling clean, slightly overdriven, gritty blues, classic rock, early metal, modern rock, and balls out modern metal.

 

[pmb]

I too think it's much better than a powerball,
Maybe it's more agressive but I heard someone on JCF-forum say:
(think a powerball on 10-12 o'clock would be a savage 120 on 2-3 o'clock)
And that would be very strange, because the savage seems to have a lot more gainstages.
Can someone explain me the thing with those gainstages in the schematic I posted. The savage seems to have eight gainstages but I think that they always work seperately for the rythm tones the three gainstages on top and for the lead tones the five below. But still, I that's the fact the savage120 should have more gain than the powerball, because it's only got four gainstages as far as I know