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I'm heading into the studio in a couple weeks and I was wanting any input on amp micing, or anything else to get a great studio tone. Here's a link to some stuff we have recorded, it's just music we don't have a singer yet. Let me know what you think of those tones, and any way to improve it. Its a Triple Rec and one Recto Standard Cab. The cleans are a Fender Twin Reverb. Listen to the "B Flat Monster"... http://www.myspace.com/everlastingfireband
 
checked out your tone on "B Flat Monster" and i love it. I also own a Triple Rec and a Peavey Triple XXX. I really like the saturation in your dirty tone on that song, any advice for settings for mine? Channel? tube rectifier or silicone diodes? Bold or spongy? Thanks man
 
The guitar sounds fine. I like to use my AT4033 about 4 feet away instead of the standard 57 up close approach. So if you have access to a good large diaphragm condenser mic I'd suggest giving it a go if you are tracking the guitar by itself. But in the end it's more about what gets played than how it's recorded. You obviously know how to play so let 'er rip mate!

What I did notice from the tracks is a poor snare drum sound and the fact the drums don't seem to sit in the same space as the guitars. Fix the drums, find a singer and you'll have some slammin' tracks!
 
Hey jaroldj thanks for the compliment. My Triple Rec is the 2 channel. What you heard was the red channel, silicone diodes, bold. Settings varied a little on the studio eq but here is how I normally run it. Master: 11 o'clock Presence: 10 o'clock Bass: 1 or 2 o'clock Mid: 10 o'clock Treble: 1 o'clock Gain: 1 to 3 o'clock.
 
You've got a good guitar sound going there...I especially liked the other tracks. The B flat monster distorted tone was a little unfocused, unlike the other two. The bass and clean sounds are great though. It may be a matter of mic position (closer to the center to get more highs) or simply mixing.
 
I agree it sounded fine and it's something I would buy, but it's hard to lend advice becasue of the internet and the relative difference between peoples sound cards and computer speakers. I think there are some things that could be adjusted in the mix, but I'm hesitant to make suggestions due to these factors.

Are you listening to the tracks after they are recorded on good quality studio monitors or is this a done at home job? Keep it up musically you guys are very tight!
 
Couple simple tips here. Im not sure how this stuff will apply, cause Im not sure of how you actually did those first takes(so its tough to say what to change without knowing what was done....), but here is some ideas.

First of all, whatever mic you are using does a pretty good job of picking everything up. I would stick with the mic you got and keep micing it how you have been, but Id also get a good condenser mic in the mix as well. You can read online and find a million different ways to position the two mics, but generally here is how I do it.

Again, stick with whatever mic setup you have now for a close mic.....and for the condenser mic.....just walk around the room and listen to your amp. Trust your ears on this one. Once you walk around and find a spot in the room that makes you think "my amp sounds pretty good right here".....well hook the condenser up right there where your ear was! This way, the condenser is picking up just what your ear heard. Just make sure the two mics are in phase.

Another thing, try to dial in a sound thats a little more focused and not quite as saturated. This may mean backing off a hair on gain, but the "clarity" of your riffing will come through better and this makes things tighter.

And to get the saturation back, just layer multiple tracks.

Just a quick example of what Im sayin. Pretend you record one single track with the gain maxed and the amp dialed in to sound friggin thick and nasty! Now, redial the amp and only run the gain between 11 and 12 oclock. Not nearly as thick and nasty sounding....but record two tracks and pan one left and one right with the less aggressive sound.

If you compare the two, even though the sound you used wasnt as thick.....the double tracked guitar will sound bigger than the single track guitar with loads of gain.

Id try this for amp settings. You say you use the gain from 1 to 3 oclock.....try between 12 and one. Back the treble down to around 12 instead of one, and push the presence up to about noon instead of 10. This will "polish" it up a bit and make it a little cleaner and focused. Now, record each heavy riff 4 times. Pan 2 recordings left and 2 recordings right. Now its both tight, and saturated.

To add further saturation, if you have the software, bump just one left recording and one right recording by about 5 to 10 milliseconds. This is not enough to hear any sort of delay, but its enough to make the duration of each note "sound" larger.

You cannot make an exact copy of a track and do this. Well, you can, but it goes out of phase if its an exact copy. This adds a neat effect.....but to get the saturated effect without the phase issue, its gotta be two individually played tracks that are offset from one another by a few ms.
 
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