Stereo EQ

[cscotto]

Hello,

I want to use an EQ with my Recto Recording Pre and 2:100. I do not want to use the EQ in the loop. I am going to use an Effect Gizmo to switch the EQ in and out, and it will go between the preamp out and power amp in. I also do not want to use one of those 31 Band graphic EQs. I was thinking of using two MXR 10 Band EQs, one for each channel or two Presonus EQ3B Parametric Equalizers.

So, my question is what do you use to EQ a stereo rack setup?

Thanks in advance.

 

[MesaGod666]

MXR KFK 10-Band EQ.

That is all you need.

 

[cscotto]

MXR KFK 10-Band EQ.

That is all you need.

Thanks, but the KFK 10-Band EQ is mono in/stereo out. It would work in the effects loop of the recto pre, but not between the preamp, which is stereo out, and power amp in, which is also stereo. I don't want to use the effects loop because it is parallel not serial. Thanks for the suggestion.

 

[tedsticle]

I'm confused, what is your exact signal chain? If you aren't using any stereo effects, then MesaGod's suggestion would work just fine.

 

[cscotto]

I'm confused, what is your exact signal chain? If you aren't using any stereo effects, then MesaGod's suggestion would work just fine.

Here is the simple version:

Recto Pre/Stereo outs -->G-Major 2/Stereo ins and outs --->EQ (needs stereo ins) --->2:100 power amp/stereo in

Of course, in the above signal chain, I could use the EQ in the G-major 2 and skip the need for a separate EQ. However, my actual signal chain is a little more complicated by the use of an RJM Effect Gizmo for switching. There are times I want the G-Major out of the signal chain and an EQ in the chain. Why? When I am in the Modern Channel on the Recto Pre, the output is very hot and designed specifically for the 2:100 power amp. It sounds great. With the G-Major in the signal chain, the output of the Recto Pre has to be attenuated to not overload the G-major. The Effect Gizmo allows me to have the best of both worlds, but I need a separate stereo in/out EQ. I don't like the dbx 31 band graphics.

Signal chain:

Guitar -->Effect Gizmo -->(Pedals in Effect Gizmo)-->Recto Pre input -->Recto Pre stereo outputs to Effect Gizmo --->G-Major 2/EQ -->2:100

With the switching system, the pedals, G-Major 2, and EQ can be switched into or out of the signal chain.

 

[ryjan]

I've had one of these before and ran it with mi Triaxis. Great unit with low noise and clean signal.
http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=1716&brandID=2

 

[snave]

Why are you planning to run the G-major before the EQ? It makes more sense to EQ a dry signal and have effects last in the chain. In this case you can run one of the Recto pre outs into the mono EQ, then even run mono from EQ to G-major (which can split your signal into stereo).

 

[ryjan]

Why are you planning to run the G-major before the EQ? It makes more sense to EQ a dry signal and have effects last in the chain. In this case you can run one of the Recto pre outs into the mono EQ, then even run mono from EQ to G-major (which can split your signal into stereo).

I believe he wants the eq in the chain when the G-major is bypassed. So he will be switching from G-major to dry with eq.

 

[MesaGod666]

The G-Major can be controlled via MIDI. So, just set it to bypass when you want your eq in the loop. Are you looking to bypass the eq while the effects are engaged?

 

[cscotto]

Why are you planning to run the G-major before the EQ? It makes more sense to EQ a dry signal and have effects last in the chain. In this case you can run one of the Recto pre outs into the mono EQ, then even run mono from EQ to G-major (which can split your signal into stereo).

I believe he wants the eq in the chain when the G-major is bypassed. So he will be switching from G-major to dry with eq.

Absolutely correct. The order is not important because when the G major is on, the EQ will not be on. Bypassing the G-major does not help because the input to the power amp and the output of the Recto pre are limited by the G-major. Just think of it the way a lot of people talk about the tone on the Roadster head and Dual Recs is better with the loop bypassed. The G-major acts as a limiter, and it does not amplify a signal, so there is no makeup gain.

I guess I will just have to go with the two channel 15 band types or just use two MXR 10-bands.

Thanks.

 

[ando]

You need a MIDI loop switcher so you can isolate the G major and the EQ from each other, but still retain your footpedal presets.

 

[RectoStudioGuy]

Alesis DEQ830 or the 230 version, simple versatile.

 

[cscotto]

You need a MIDI loop switcher so you can isolate the G major and the EQ from each other, but still retain your footpedal presets.

I already have a Midi loop switcher, the RJM Effect Gizmo, and isolating the G major and the EQ from each other is exactly why I bought it (among other reasons).

Alesis DEQ830 or the 230 version, simple versatile.

That is a nice rack EQ, but a little more than I need.

I finally went with the MXR KFK 10-band. The KFK will work in the effects loop of the Recto Pre, since the send is mono and the returns are stereo. I will put the KFK in one of the loops of the Effect Gizmo, so when I switch off the loop, the EQ is removed from the signal path. I will get the KFK on Friday, and I will report back on how it works in this setup.

Thanks for all the help.

 

[RectoStudioGuy]

I use a pair of the MXR 108's with my Recto Pre...you'll like the control they give you over the Recto.

 

[cscotto]

I use a pair of the MXR 108's with my Recto Pre...you'll like the control they give you over the Recto.

That is other way I thought about adding EQ. I was going to put a pair of MXR 108's between the Recto Pre main outputs and the 2:100 inputs. Is that where you placed them in the signal chain?

 

[RectoStudioGuy]

I use a pair of the MXR 108's with my Recto Pre...you'll like the control they give you over the Recto.

That is other way I thought about adding EQ. I was going to put a pair of MXR 108's between the Recto Pre main outputs and the 2:100 inputs. Is that where you placed them in the signal chain?

No, I use the first prior to a dist. pedal and the second in the fx loop...all via loop switcher.