Roadster - Where is the reverb in the chain?

[Karl Houseknecht]

Is the reverb before or after the effects loop?

 

[thejay]

Typically your reverb is one of the last in the chain but it also depends on how you want to hear it.. I have even noticed that pedals react differently to the amp/guitar it self and your standard rules do not apply. I actually think that pedals sound great on the Roadster up front with the loop completely bypassed.

 

[domct203]

Typically your reverb is one of the last in the chain but it also depends on how you want to hear it.. I have even noticed that pedals react differently to the amp/guitar it self and your standard rules do not apply. I actually think that pedals sound great on the Roadster up front with the loop completely bypassed.

The OP is asking where the on-board reverb of the Roadster is located in the circuit, not where to put a reverb pedal.

Is the reverb before or after the effects loop?

Unfortunately the reverb is before the FX Loop. It's exact placement in the signal is dependent on what channel is selected.

If the Roadster is true to it's RKII heritage, the reverb send for CH's 1 & 2 is from the Second Gain Stage (V1B) and returned in parallel with the dry signal into the Third Gain Stage (V2A).

In CH's 3 & 4, the reverb send is from the Treble pot's wiper and returned in parallel with the dry signal from the Master pot's wiper, directly into the FX Loop.

Dom

 

[thejay]

my bad Dom, thanks for correcting

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

Unfortunately the reverb is before the FX Loop.

Shucks. That really sucks if you want to put a noise reduction solution in the loop after the preamp. Your reverb tails get cut short. No biggie. I rarely use an amp's on board reverb, but I was looking forward to possibly using this one because of how good it sounds.

 

[KH Guitar Freak]

Unfortunately the reverb is before the FX Loop.

Shucks. That really sucks if you want to put a noise reduction solution in the loop after the preamp. Your reverb tails get cut short. No biggie. I rarely use an amp's on board reverb, but I was looking forward to possibly using this one because of how good it sounds.

Honestly, at loud gigging volumes, I think it wouldn't be as much of an issue. After all, assuming that a "noise reduction solution" is referring to a noise gate unit of some kind, wouldn't you want the reverb to also cease to exist when the "clamping" of the noise gate kicks in???

 

[domct203]

The problem I have with it is that I do not want to put delay or chorus on my reverb. To me, adding delay onto the reverb makes a sloppy sounding delay.

I wonder what the reasoning is for Mesa to put the reverb before the loop on a high gain amp.

Dom

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

Honestly, at loud gigging volumes, I think it wouldn't be as much of an issue. After all, assuming that a "noise reduction solution" is referring to a noise gate unit of some kind, wouldn't you want the reverb to also cease to exist when the "clamping" of the noise gate kicks in???

No, I wouldn't want that at all. I'd want the reverb to naturally decay after the gate clamps off the original signal. Also, as another poster points out, I don't want reverb to come before delay, chorus, tremolo, or any other time based effect either.

It's really no big deal. I have nice reverbs in my MFX processor that I can use and place exactly where I like.

 

[ironjose]

i would never thought about the reverb i mean the chain effects... i thought it was the last thing... you know after the effect loop...
so that's why many Roadster users use an reverb pedal instead of the built in... i just might be trying that too...

 

[screamingdaisy]

I wonder what the reasoning is for Mesa to put the reverb before the loop on a high gain amp.

Probably has something to do with being able to bypass the FX loop and still have reverb.

 

[ironjose]

I wonder what the reasoning is for Mesa to put the reverb before the loop on a high gain amp.

Probably has something to do with being able to bypass the FX loop and still have reverb.

that makes sense...