Quick Question about the Slaveout.

[Jerrick]

Hey guys, im gonna be recording soon and right now the plan is a sm57 and i5 to close mic the cab and find which one just fits more naturally. Then have a 'room' mic a few feet away from the cab. The last thing I want to do is experiment more with impulse responses. Cant use my fxloop for it cause that will have effects attached.

So heres the question. Can I take the slave out and feed that right into one of the line-ins of my interface? Or do I have to route it any differently for that to work?

Thanks.

 

[greg_moreira]

Im not familiar with the processes involved in impulse responses, so i might be off the mark here.....however if your intent is to simply just get a seperate signal to the interface(aside from what you are micing)...then yes, this will work.

Here is a disclaimer though.....the pure signal from the slave out sounds....well......awful all by itself. I used the slave out straight into my interface and into the computer to lay down some scratch guitar tracks, hoping to get something adequate to start laying other tracks around. it did serve its purpose....but those dry tracks sounded monumentally bad! I didnt need, or expect quality sound in this part of the process cause these tracks were never going to make the final mix anyways, but wow was it uglier than I figured! Especially if your interface has a trim adjustment for the inputs....you will be fine getting a strong enough signal to work with.

 

[mikey383]

The problem with the slave out is that it's tapped off the speaker outs, but it doesn't have the response of a speaker. So you're left with the preamp tone taken after the output transformer, but don't have a speaker to duplicate the correct frequencies.

 

[greg_moreira]

yeah. At one point I thought to run it through some cab sim software of some kind just to see if it could be dressed up any.....but i never got that ambitious. im sure it serves its purpose fine when used as intended.....but not so much as a source for line in recording where sound quality is a concern! it may work fine for what it is that your trying to attempt though depending on how that process works.

 

[Jerrick]

Cool thanks, just making sure I didnt have to buy any other boxes or something.

Im not sure how im gonna sound, but ive heard great things with preamps and then using a good set of IRs. And even when used with amp modeling. Figured now would be a good time to really test out recabinet.

Recording guitar is still a few months off, but ill update this when I have the clips done.

 

[TFridgen]

I use the slaveout of my Roadster and use a free convolution plugin(KeFir) to load speaker impulses in my DAW(Sonar Producer 8). Using RedWire impulses, I can get GREAT sounding recordings. I just take to slaveout into my preamp, adjust levels, and rock n roll. I still, however, like the sound of a mic'd cabinet better, but for layering guitars, this is a very good way to go if you don't want to record things over and over and if you don't want to buy 2 or three mics and 2 or three mic preamps(that gets very expensive). Using the impulses is a lso a great way to hear the differences between cabinets and speakers, as it gives you a very fair representation of a speaker's tone.

 

[Jerrick]

I use the slaveout of my Roadster and use a free convolution plugin(KeFir) to load speaker impulses in my DAW(Sonar Producer 8). Using RedWire impulses, I can get GREAT sounding recordings. I just take to slaveout into my preamp, adjust levels, and rock n roll. I still, however, like the sound of a mic'd cabinet better, but for layering guitars, this is a very good way to go if you don't want to record things over and over and if you don't want to buy 2 or three mics and 2 or three mic preamps(that gets very expensive). Using the impulses is a lso a great way to hear the differences between cabinets and speakers, as it gives you a very fair representation of a speaker's tone.

Nice!

Thats exactly what ill be doing. Though Kefir doesnt seem to work for me. Using the standard speakers that come with guitar rig 4 sound better than having them closed and using kefir. Im not sure what happened with it, but im using bogex now and that works really well.

Ill be recording 4 tracks at once for leads, clean, and rhythm, which will be double tracked. Then ill go through all the combinations and narrow it down to just the best sounding two tracks and that will be my rhythm tone (Two tracks left, two tracks right). And repeat to find the best tone for leads and clean. Should be interesting.

 

[cheameup]

so as a DR newb owner. i can run a line from the DR slaveout straight into an input of my edirol firewire card I use with my laptop for sketching ideas and it wont hurt anything ?

 

[Jerrick]

From what I have gathered, yes, it will be just fine. Just make sure your not clipping anything. Then add a good IR so your not hearing hearing pure preamp, cause that will be a very scratchy fizzy mess.