i'm a gonna do this, with my boogie soon..
but i wanted to report on what i found out, while it's still fresh in the membrane..
just did an a/b test with a Palmer junction on saturday.
we used a peavey classic 30, just because it was easy, cuz it was there!
LOL
this was moderate clean to barely crunchy sounds.
haven't tried it with a high gain sound..... yet.
we recorded two tracks at once: one with a mic, one with the palmer cab sim.
we then a/b'd them back to back, and compared the sound.
http://www.mercenary.com/pdi09figudib.html
https://taweber.powweb.com/weber/masslite.htm
daw: Sonar
mic: at4033
ART DPS (digital into sonar)
amp: Peavey classic 30
Guitar: warmoth TELE /fender stock tele pickups
the amp went: speaker out >> Palmer junction >> Weber Mass lite >> speaker
we set the mass for a comfy volume, and adjusted the treble/mid and mid/low crossover points for a nice full sound.
the Palmer, recorded the straight amp sound before attenuation, the mic recorded the close miced weber/attenuated sound.
(for the purpose of this test (for recording) the difference between a wide open 30 watt tube amp, and the sound of the attenuated amp versus the Palmer, wasn't worth the time.)
the only way this amp would ever be 'recorded' would be low volume, so the only thing we cared about was the sound of the pure amp direct, versus the attenuated amp miced.
the difference between the miced sound and the direct sound:
miniscule.
on the miced track: if you take out the part of the sound that is: the mic capturing the room : i'd have to say the palmer sounded cleaner, more distinct, more in your face, and the tone was fuller and absolutely smooth.
add a touch of ambient reverb to the direct track, and the differences were so small as to not add up when blending with other tracks.
i've been using a demeter iso cabinet to record with for some time, but to my ears, this Mass/Palmer combo sounds so much better!
i'll be selling my Demeter Isolation cabinet soon!
but i wanted to report on what i found out, while it's still fresh in the membrane..
just did an a/b test with a Palmer junction on saturday.
we used a peavey classic 30, just because it was easy, cuz it was there!
LOL
this was moderate clean to barely crunchy sounds.
haven't tried it with a high gain sound..... yet.
we recorded two tracks at once: one with a mic, one with the palmer cab sim.
we then a/b'd them back to back, and compared the sound.
http://www.mercenary.com/pdi09figudib.html
https://taweber.powweb.com/weber/masslite.htm
daw: Sonar
mic: at4033
ART DPS (digital into sonar)
amp: Peavey classic 30
Guitar: warmoth TELE /fender stock tele pickups
the amp went: speaker out >> Palmer junction >> Weber Mass lite >> speaker
we set the mass for a comfy volume, and adjusted the treble/mid and mid/low crossover points for a nice full sound.
the Palmer, recorded the straight amp sound before attenuation, the mic recorded the close miced weber/attenuated sound.
(for the purpose of this test (for recording) the difference between a wide open 30 watt tube amp, and the sound of the attenuated amp versus the Palmer, wasn't worth the time.)
the only way this amp would ever be 'recorded' would be low volume, so the only thing we cared about was the sound of the pure amp direct, versus the attenuated amp miced.
the difference between the miced sound and the direct sound:
miniscule.
on the miced track: if you take out the part of the sound that is: the mic capturing the room : i'd have to say the palmer sounded cleaner, more distinct, more in your face, and the tone was fuller and absolutely smooth.
add a touch of ambient reverb to the direct track, and the differences were so small as to not add up when blending with other tracks.
i've been using a demeter iso cabinet to record with for some time, but to my ears, this Mass/Palmer combo sounds so much better!
i'll be selling my Demeter Isolation cabinet soon!