NAD, Rectoverb 50 Combo Series 1, thoughts?

[Watsonb2]

Hey all,

Finally legitimized my joining this board...haha
Was able to pick this thing up for $630 Used.

The clean channel sounds AMAZING. I don't know if that's because I'd never tried any of the "greats," but I would've bought this based on the clean channel alone and thought it a great deal. The distortion, which I was more interested in initially, is tough to nail. I'm looking for tones similar to Opeth, Dream Theater, Textures, Alter Bridge, Scar Symmetry ( to give a general range). Does anyone have any experience with this amp and settings that I could use to get some of these tones? I tried the recommended metal setting from the manual, and it just wasn't what I was looking for, can't really explain why.

Also, I don't necessarily want to go off and buy a whole bunch of pedals to use with this. Everyone that reviewed this amp said an EQ pedal and a Boost/Preamp pedal (Either the tubescreamer or the BB Preamp) would serve very well to enhance the tones coming out of this thing. I figured that since I'll probably end up using delay and chorus at some point, I thought that the TC G-Major might be a good option, especially since there's one locally for a fair deal. Would it have the EQ and boosting capabilities that I need to get those tones, or am I better off going with the pedals?

Lastly, I know from doing my homework that tube amps do run warm as a result of all the Electromagnetic phenomena that follow from producing a noise, how warm is acceptable, or a good range for this amp (or Mesas in general)?

I am a complete newcomer to the whole world of "real" tone, so any insight you guys can offer would be awesome.

Thanks,

B

 

[coppa]

try putting a patch cable between the send and return of the fx loop. it makes the amp just a little tighter and a little faster.
it will make the notes seem to come out easier from the guitar where as before you kind of have to push to get them to ring out and sustain with the patch cord in the fx loop it seems they have more drive

the other thing you could do is mod the fx loop to series. it very easy and does the same things as the patch cord to the sound
as well as making reverbs sound better in the loop.

start with the channel volume around 9:00, presence off, bass 9:00-10:00, mids 12:00-2:00, trebble adjust this for your guitar should be between 11:00-1:00.
gain around noon but also it depends of your guitar.

most importantly when you change the knobs don't look at where they are just reach over and turn whatever you need up or down based on what you want to hear. you might look at the settings later after you find a good sound and be surprised at where the knobs are at.

 

[clutch71]

Before you go spending oodles on pedals let me point this out. With the G-Major all of the effects are through the loop. The Digitech GSP1101 allows an input signal into the amps input and a section for the loop. This allows for some effects to be assigned before or after the preamp. I mention this unit because I've owned a good majority of the stompboxes, FX, and amps modeled in the unit and have spent (and lost) a lot of money buying and selling pedals. If your looking at an OD, Chorus, and Delay your looking at just over $300 bucks. The GSP sells for $399. It has it's draw backs but I've had the unit for almost a year and like it.

I'd recommend that you go online and research the G-Major, G-System, Axe-Fx, GSP1101, and Digidesign's Rack Eleven. Read all the manuals paying attention to the OD's, effects, amp models, interfaces, and set up recommendations and decide what's for you. There's a lot to learn about these things and in the meantime you can spend time with your core tone. The ROV is a great amp, get to know her in's and out's.

If you have questions about the GSP. Remember you'll need a footswitch to control it. PM me and I'll answer any questions the best I can.

Good luck.

 

[Watsonb2]

try putting a patch cable between the send and return of the fx loop. it makes the amp just a little tighter and a little faster.
it will make the notes seem to come out easier from the guitar where as before you kind of have to push to get them to ring out and sustain with the patch cord in the fx loop it seems they have more drive

the other thing you could do is mod the fx loop to series. it very easy and does the same things as the patch cord to the sound
as well as making reverbs sound better in the loop.

start with the channel volume around 9:00, presence off, bass 9:00-10:00, mids 12:00-2:00, trebble adjust this for your guitar should be between 11:00-1:00.
gain around noon but also it depends of your guitar.

I tried the cable in the FX loop, didn't notice a whole lot of difference, and I'm definitely not going to try modding it, too much of a newcomer to be messing with that kind of stuff.

Thanks for the settings suggestions, I think I've found something usable.

Before you go spending oodles on pedals let me point this out. With the G-Major all of the effects are through the loop. The Digitech GSP1101 allows an input signal into the amps input and a section for the loop. This allows for some effects to be assigned before or after the preamp. I mention this unit because I've owned a good majority of the stompboxes, FX, and amps modeled in the unit and have spent (and lost) a lot of money buying and selling pedals. If your looking at an OD, Chorus, and Delay your looking at just over $300 bucks. The GSP sells for $399. It has it's draw backs but I've had the unit for almost a year and like it.

I'd recommend that you go online and research the G-Major, G-System, Axe-Fx, GSP1101, and Digidesign's Rack Eleven. Read all the manuals paying attention to the OD's, effects, amp models, interfaces, and set up recommendations and decide what's for you. There's a lot to learn about these things and in the meantime you can spend time with your core tone. The ROV is a great amp, get to know her in's and out's.

If you have questions about the GSP. Remember you'll need a footswitch to control it. PM me and I'll answer any questions the best I can.

Good luck.

I hadn't really heard much about the GSP, but after looking around, it seems to be a bit pricey. (all the ones on the bay are going for around 500). I'm not too concerned with where things are going (in terms of before/after the preamp) so long as I get the effect, so the G-major just seems like a good option, especially since I've heard results in youtube videos that speak volumes to the type of tone I want to achieve. And they're a lot less, I'm looking at a local one for 150. (Though I never would've spent 300 on three pedals...used is definitely the way to go, even after the deal I got on the amp.)

 

[clutch71]

Yeah you got a hell of a deal that is for sure. If the GSP are going used for $500 without the footswitch that's a little high. I guess they do go for $499 new. Forgot.

The G-Major has a lot of fans on here. Has great features and very well liked. Effect placement is very important. While each player has their preference phasers, flange, trems, whammy's, Wah's, OD's, in general sound better out front, while chorus, delay, reverb sound better through a loop. I never tried the G-Major because everything was in the loop and no built in OD's. I like an OD to tighten the rhythmns.

IMO pedals sound better tone wise and are more transparrent. I just never liked tap dancing, another big reason I like the GSP. I went with the Roland FC300 as opposed to the control 2. It changes presets on the GSP and channel on my DSL 50. Once you get locked into pedals and want to avoid tap dancing it's pricey.

Half the fun for me is the hunt and research. Good luck.

 

[coppa]

I tried the cable in the FX loop, didn't notice a whole lot of difference, and I'm definitely not going to try modding it, too much of a newcomer to be messing with that kind of stuff.

Thanks for the settings suggestions, I think I've found something usable.

the cable does not change the sound it very slightly changes the feel of the amp. to me it sounds this <--> much tighter
but its better than nothing