I have a boost in front of my Dual Rectifier and really like it and have it on 90% of the time, which works for my playing. I dont fully rely on the boost either, the amp on its own sounds great, so the boost makes the tiniest difference. So for those really dynamic sections, it goes off and its pure amp sound.
More chunk required from my dual rec! How?
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Owning both a Peavey 6505+ and a Roadster, I can undertand the original thread posters situation somewhat.
The way the Peavey is voiced it just dominates and cuts through like a mofo with a ton of high end and controlled chunk, and you need to set a more smooth and lower mid based amp like a Recto's tone stack in a way to carve out your own sonic space and not directly compete with the Peavey's, a battle which you will lose imo.
But even in that situation the Mesa will tend to occupy a lower sonic space than the Peavey and your ears may still perceive that as not competing against it well.
I've always avoided two guitarist bands whenever possible because of the additional complexity of making sure whatever amp I'm using will mesh well and won't be lost in the mix against what the other guitarist is using.
I love Recto's for one guitarist bands because they have a huge sonic footprint and fill alot of space. In a two guitarist band I might choose an amp that is more focused and cutting that occupies less sonic space, but has the advantage of slicing through better.
That is just me though, and one of the reasons I like to have a few different amps around is so I can choose the best tool for the situation at hand.
If I joined a band and the other guitarist had a 6505+, my Roadster would probably not be my first choice of amplifier. I would probably reach for my Marshall 2203 JCM 800 or Splawn Nitro (either of which could easily give the Peavey a run for it's money cutting through the mix imo
) or even my own 6505+ lol. :lol:
I do love my Roadster though, don't get me wrong. I just like to use it in situations where I think it can shine the best...but if you don't have multiple amps to choose from and need to make the Recto work I'm sure throwing a graphic EQ in the loop with some tweaking would definitely help you compete against the Peavey better.
The Roadster is the darker and smoother amp of the Recto line however, so it would actually be at more of a disadvantage against a Peavey 6505+ than a Regular Dual or Triple Rec imo. The Triple Rec is the most aggressive/tight of the entire line that I've played personally, so I can understand the guy above with the Triple that says he has no problem against the 5150. The 5150 II/6505+ are voiced higher in the mids than the 5150/6505 which are another factor as well to consider.
Good luck.
The way the Peavey is voiced it just dominates and cuts through like a mofo with a ton of high end and controlled chunk, and you need to set a more smooth and lower mid based amp like a Recto's tone stack in a way to carve out your own sonic space and not directly compete with the Peavey's, a battle which you will lose imo.
But even in that situation the Mesa will tend to occupy a lower sonic space than the Peavey and your ears may still perceive that as not competing against it well.
I've always avoided two guitarist bands whenever possible because of the additional complexity of making sure whatever amp I'm using will mesh well and won't be lost in the mix against what the other guitarist is using.
I love Recto's for one guitarist bands because they have a huge sonic footprint and fill alot of space. In a two guitarist band I might choose an amp that is more focused and cutting that occupies less sonic space, but has the advantage of slicing through better.
That is just me though, and one of the reasons I like to have a few different amps around is so I can choose the best tool for the situation at hand.
If I joined a band and the other guitarist had a 6505+, my Roadster would probably not be my first choice of amplifier. I would probably reach for my Marshall 2203 JCM 800 or Splawn Nitro (either of which could easily give the Peavey a run for it's money cutting through the mix imo
) or even my own 6505+ lol. :lol: I do love my Roadster though, don't get me wrong. I just like to use it in situations where I think it can shine the best...but if you don't have multiple amps to choose from and need to make the Recto work I'm sure throwing a graphic EQ in the loop with some tweaking would definitely help you compete against the Peavey better.
The Roadster is the darker and smoother amp of the Recto line however, so it would actually be at more of a disadvantage against a Peavey 6505+ than a Regular Dual or Triple Rec imo. The Triple Rec is the most aggressive/tight of the entire line that I've played personally, so I can understand the guy above with the Triple that says he has no problem against the 5150. The 5150 II/6505+ are voiced higher in the mids than the 5150/6505 which are another factor as well to consider.
Good luck.
YellowJacket
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Melodyman said:Owning both a Peavey 6505+ and a Roadster, I can undertand the original thread posters situation somewhat.
The way the Peavey is voiced it just dominates and cuts through like a mofo with a ton of high end and controlled chunk, and you need to set a more smooth and lower mid based amp like a Recto's tone stack in a way to carve out your own sonic space and not directly compete with the Peavey's, a battle which you will lose imo.
But even in that situation the Mesa will tend to occupy a lower sonic space than the Peavey and your ears may still perceive that as not competing against it well.
I've always avoided two guitarist bands whenever possible because of the additional complexity of making sure whatever amp I'm using will mesh well and won't be lost in the mix against what the other guitarist is using.
I love Recto's for one guitarist bands because they have a huge sonic footprint and fill alot of space. In a two guitarist band I might choose an amp that is more focused and cutting that occupies less sonic space, but has the advantage of slicing through better.
That is just me though, and one of the reasons I like to have a few different amps around is so I can choose the best tool for the situation at hand.
If I joined a band and the other guitarist had a 6505+, my Roadster would probably not be my first choice of amplifier. I would probably reach for my Marshall 2203 JCM 800 or Splawn Nitro (either of which could easily give the Peavey a run for it's money cutting through the mix imo
I do love my Roadster though, don't get me wrong. I just like to use it in situations where I think it can shine the best...but if you don't have multiple amps to choose from and need to make the Recto work I'm sure throwing a graphic EQ in the loop with some tweaking would definitely help you compete against the Peavey better.
The Roadster is the darker and smoother amp of the Recto line however, so it would actually be at more of a disadvantage against a Peavey 6505+ than a Regular Dual or Triple Rec imo. The Triple Rec is the most aggressive/tight of the entire line that I've played personally, so I can understand the guy above with the Triple that says he has no problem against the 5150. The 5150 II/6505+ are voiced higher in the mids than the 5150/6505 which are another factor as well to consider.
Good luck.
This is a great post. Some of us Boogie owners (i.e. me) just go on about how the Boogie voice is so much better than a peavey but we overlook how tones sit in a mix.
My two brothers and I were playing in bands together for the longest time and we'd always try to make sure that the guitars blended well. It often consisted of backing off the gain since two halfstacks at once are much beefier than only one at a time. The other ingredient was our guitars. He plays a G&L ASAT and I play a Gibson Les Paul. We found that the boogie provided a 'core' to the sound and the Tele just wrapped right around it. The blend was astonishing.
ryjan
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Good post melodyman. Frequency occupation is more important than punch, gain, volume. My other gee-tarist plays a Line 6 (yuck) but he is very topend heavy with a razory gain and I have my Mark IV eq'd with more of a mid-low punch so they both stand out and mix well even at slight volume differences. I still say mine sounds better but I'm a little biased.
Frequency Occupation. I think I've found my bands new name!
Frequency Occupation. I think I've found my bands new name!
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