Mini RECTO CLIPS!

[BostonRedSox]

http://www.mesaboogie.com/Product_Info/Rectifier_Series/Mini_Rectifier_25/miniRectifier25.html#p7GPc1_4

 

[BostonRedSox]

Meh ...

 

[ryjan]

Meh ...

Yup. Meh...

 

[BostonRedSox]

It just feels like, if you are going to spend a grand on a Recto, why not go for a Single or Dual? Used OR new? They aren't that difficult to tame and actually sound great at lower volumes. Not TV volumes, but slightly louder and they sound fabulous! IMO, of course. What was up with the blues clips too? No blues player is going to target a $1000 Rectifier amp for their blues work. Especially one that is void of an amazing clean tone and reverb. I don't get the necessity of this amp. Why not push the built-in attenuator that Mesa put in the RA-100 and pop it into these. Of course, Rectos don't really rely on power tube clip to begin with.

 

[fluff191]

Man after the initial excitement, the amp doesnt sound like a $999.

 

[Don]

I like it but I'm an old guy with no real appreciation of modern sounds!

 

[screamingdaisy]

It just feels like, if you are going to spend a grand on a Recto, why not go for a Single or Dual? Used OR new? They aren't that difficult to tame and actually sound great at lower volumes. Not TV volumes, but slightly louder and they sound fabulous! IMO, of course. What was up with the blues clips too? No blues player is going to target a $1000 Rectifier amp for their blues work. Especially one that is void of an amazing clean tone and reverb. I don't get the necessity of this amp. Why not push the built-in attenuator that Mesa put in the RA-100 and pop it into these. Of course, Rectos don't really rely on power tube clip to begin with.

Small amps are in vogue.

Meh ...

I think it sounds like a Recto. I don't think we should be expecting anything groundbreaking. I mean, it's a Recto in a smaller box.

Beyond that, Mesa's never been able to capture great sounding clips of the Recto so I'm not entirely surprised this time around.

 

[BostonRedSox]

Beyond that, Mesa's never been able to capture great sounding clips of the Recto so I'm not entirely surprised this time around.

Really? I like Mesa's clips A LOT. I must have a different type of sound in my head that is more in line with what they show off. According to Facebook, many rave about the "iconic Recto-sounds" that Marcus was able to achieve in both Dual Rec videos, so much so, that Mesa listed the settings used. I agree with you, it still sounds like a Recto. A very limited Recto, mind you. The heavy, Recto chunk that many love, isn't all about sound -- for me, it is about feel as well. It is too difficult to tell by the video if the amp can get you that same bottom end response thumping through your Recto 4x12. I get that those cabs are tuned to better accentuate those frequencies, but much of that thump is also thanks to the Rectifier (and other similar amps). If it the mini-RECTO is able to achieve this, I might view it differently. Then again, this may not necessarily be aimed at live usage at all. Maybe more practice-oriented, small club, recording purposes. To each their own ...

 

[J.J]

Sounds like a recto to me It's a 25 watt amp and you just can't expect it to maintain the level of traits the real one has. I think Mesa have done well.

I can't help wonder if 6V6 tubes would be better. I am not a fan of El84 tubes, but I suspect that is more to do with the quality of current El84's. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I just don't think any of the current production El84 tubes are as good as what you can get in say El34, 6V6 or 6L6.

Personally as cute as it is, I'd skip the mini and get DR.

 

[EvilEmuOfDoom]

I think it definitely fills the home studio/bedroom niche. I wouldn't bother considering it a live amp because if I was gigging I would just get a DR. However, for those of us who want that Recto aggression at home while the kids are sleeping, it's perfect!

 

[CJG]

Meh ...

Yup. Meh...

:shock: :shock:
Really? Personally I was blown away by the clips. Do You normally like Rectifiers at all? :wink:
CJ Grimmark

 

[BostonRedSox]

Meh ...

Yup. Meh...

:shock: :shock:
Really? Personally I was blown away by the clips. Do You normally like Rectifiers at all? :wink:
CJ Grimmark

Just because some of us weren't blown away by the clips, doesn't mean that we don't like Rectifiers or that we haven't owned them. Like I said in my other post, I like Rectifiers A LOT. I just don't see the value in that little amp. I'm sure it rocks just fine. If you like it, cool. I don't dislike it. I haven't played it yet. It just doesn't do much for my needs. The clips definitely don't BLOW ME AWAY. They sound good though. Tough to argue that.

 

[ryjan]

Meh ...

Yup. Meh...

:shock: :shock:
Really? Personally I was blown away by the clips. Do You normally like Rectifiers at all? :wink:
CJ Grimmark

It's like Ferrari just made a hybrid. What's the point of a nuetered Recto? If volume is such a concern then tubes aren't the best thing for you. Buy a modeler and a good set of headphones.

 

[ifailedshapes]

If volume is such a concern then tubes aren't the best thing for you. Buy a modeler and a good set of headphones.

This is actually a valid point. Line 6 gear is getting a lot better, and if all you need is something to practice with, their HD series is an incredible value. As much as our families love us, they'd probably love us more if our practicing wasn't audible throughout the entire house.

 

[EvilEmuOfDoom]

It's like Ferrari just made a hybrid. What's the point of a nuetered Recto? If volume is such a concern then tubes aren't the best thing for you. Buy a modeler and a good set of headphones.

Tried them, can't stand them. The point is EXACTLY that it's a real tube Recto I can play in smaller environments. I don't understand why people have an issue with this. If you don't NEED a smaller Recto, use a regular one, they're awesome. If you're in a situation where a smaller one would be a major convenience like me, it's perfect.

Geez, it's not like it's replacing the Single, Dual, or Triple rectifier. It's just expanding the line.

 

[screamingdaisy]

I already have a couple of Rectos and I wouldn't mind this mini-Recto sheerly for convenience. Dragging a head and 2x12 over to a short jam session is a major pain in the ass. If I can one hand a Recto into a basement I'd be all for it. It would be awesome if they eventually built this into a 1x12 combo version.

 

[b0nkersx]

If volume is such a concern then tubes aren't the best thing for you. Buy a modeler and a good set of headphones.

This is actually a valid point. Line 6 gear is getting a lot better, and if all you need is something to practice with, their HD series is an incredible value. As much as our families love us, they'd probably love us more if our practicing wasn't audible throughout the entire house.

Incredibly valid. I'm all for this too. Modelers have gotten a lot better in recent years. A lot of people are opposed to them because either (1) it's NOT TUOOB OMG or (2) old modelers left a bad taste in their mouth. I generally don't care for people that consider (1) a problem, and people that consider (2) a problem should approach this new stuff with an open mind - you never know where you can find tonal bliss.

Small amps are in vogue.

Yeah, and it's not like they're that quiet either.. and with a Recto, I'd go for higher wattage regardless because even if you match volume the extra tubes give it a little extra punch. The portability is extremely nice, though. I'll definitely give it that.

As for the clips themselves, I didn't think they were that bad. I thought the modern mode was a little fuzzy and woofy though.

 

[cheameup]

I think it sounds good for what it is. its never going to chunk and burn like a 100w recto

lets face it if your at this forum your a fan and very familiar with the recto tone and we'll be hard to please

 

[HaggertysMusic]

I don't see how having more choices can be a bad thing.

I also don't understand the, "it's $999, so just buy a DR" thinking. The mini is almost half the price of a new Dual. If you're talking used that's a different story, so let's compare apples to apples. That extra $900 for the dual could easily put it out of financial reach for a lot of guys, especially the stay at home players who aren't bringing home cash from gigs.

Used, the Mini's will drop in price and provide another alternative to the guys who can't swing $1200 for a used DR. More choices. It's all good. I'm very happy to see Mesa/Boogie providing quality amps, made in the USA, at a price point more people can afford.

 

[YellowJacket]

Not to mention the lower, portable size and smaller format. Some people don't NEED 100watts. There are plenty of players who need a rad practice / small gig amp. People who play at churches can fully understand what I am talking about. Often, churches want rock music without the volume and a hair of volume can make the difference between garbage and good tone.

Seriously, a year and a half ago this would have been a FANTASTIC option for my needs. Now, I'm out gigging again so it is a moot point but I'll seriously have my eyes open for a used one down the line.