Mark 2C+ Ebay Find

[Boogiebabies]

Update on German 2c+ K on eBay,
Didn't quite sell @ 15.000 Euro

Now:
$7,200 Euro
$9,120 USD

http://r.ebay.com/Bma1cC

Not apples to apples... Not simul-class and not ++ and the tranny is rusted.. But it should make boogiebabies happy it looks factory.. I'll take 13K :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Ps: Would love that shell !!!!!!

Has a MK III rear plate. That does not make me happy.

If you want that headshell, call Mesa and they will make you one for $ 12,000 which would make that upgrade worth $ 15,000.

 

[kippiejr]

Update on German 2c+ K on eBay,
Didn't quite sell @ 15.000 Euro

Now:
$7,200 Euro
$9,120 USD

http://r.ebay.com/Bma1cC

Not apples to apples... Not simul-class and not ++ and the tranny is rusted.. But it should make boogiebabies happy it looks factory.. I'll take 13K :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Ps: Would love that shell !!!!!!

Has a MK III rear plate. That does not make me happy.




If you want that headshell, call Mesa and they will make you one for $ 12,000 which would make that upgrade worth $ 15,000.

If thats Imbuya it would probably be $12000
Are you claiming upgrades are inferior. Whats you bases for that assumption?

 

[Boogiebabies]

My bases for assumption are first and third. My basis for assuming is to never assume. I put in the work so every other
Harry and Lloyd can take credit and pretend they are experts.

So, I have been looking for a Porsche 911 and I found an 87 911 (930S) Turbo with 67K for $ 80,000. I also found
an 85 Targa for $35,000. Then, I found an 84 with 4,000 miles that had the engine upgraded to a Turbo for $ 30,000.
I thought it would be really cool to only pay $30K for a Turbo, but I would have to keep it forever because no other person with
intimate knowledge of a Porsche would ever pay me more than $ 15K for a car with an upgraded engine. That's just how life and perception is. Two of my favorites were a 911 SC with a Chevy 350 in for $12K and a 1978 911 SE with the wheels in the front seat for $ 9K. The 78 has the original engine and if restored and rebuilt could double my money and any cork sniffing buyer could not question its legitimacy. I really want to hold out for a Turbo though, but I may have to restore a few originals to fund the purchase. Upgrades just don't hold value, but may be just a fun to drive.

 

[Boogiebabies]

Update on German 2c+ K on eBay,
Didn't quite sell @ 15.000 Euro

Now:
$7,200 Euro
$9,120 USD

If you want that headshell, call Mesa and they will make you one for $ 12,000 which would make that upgrade worth $ 15,000.

If thats Imbuya it would probably be $12000
Are you claiming upgrades are inferior. Whats you bases for that assumption?

 

[kippiejr]

That is where we differ. I value a C+ on performance and my ear is the judge. Because I am a active guitar player,I don't care if it has a hamster chasing cheese under the shell, if it is a C+, I know it kicks ***. I have actually A/B'd and have several C+'s in mutable configurations. Out of the lot, My 2 favorite are a IIA>C+ and a early factory DRG. But each is unique to itself. I don't buy them to sell, I buy them to play. But If I get a chance to sell a duplicate for a rather nice profit, I will..With playing three nights a week, I can grab any of them off the shelf and it will put a smile on my face. Hearing and playing them on an a weekly basis, in the studio, practice and live, gives me great actual working knowledge of C+'s. So please keep preaching the upgrade issue to all that will hear and I'll keep picking them up cheap and laugh all they way to the TONE BANK. I don't buy something and worry about how I am going to sell it later. I'll take that fake Turbo and burn the tires off and drive it 150 MPH off a pier and live life and that would be PRICELESS to me. If i want to buy something and worry about selling it later, it would be precious metal! My heirs can worry the value of a C+ when Im gone.

Every unique item has a buyer. The trick is connecting the two. If one of your porch's for some reason smoked in the quarter mile, and won night after night, who cares what engine it has, you could fine a drag racer itching to pay because it performs..And pay more for it than the others. Is he going to pop the hood and and say forget it, thats only a 1.8 litre inline 4.? Hell no, he will pay what ever he is willing to pay.

Make sure you catch Harry and Llyods new flick.

 

[LesPaul70]

Thank you for being the only honest one posting Audiokill.

You know, if I was one of those previous posters, I might have been a bit miffed by that comment. You're effectively calling all other posters...well, less than honest, which is not very PC.

Every unique item has a buyer. The trick is connecting the two.

There's also a third element involved. The price.
I've no doubt it's an awesome amp. Or a unique one. It's just that...I don't think it's $15k awesome. I could buy 3 high-end boutique/vintage amps for that much, at least as long as they're not called "Trainwreck Express".

Finding the correct price for one-of-a-kind items is tough. Even though I find that amp interesting, I know I never consider paying that much for it. Not even as an investment; there's no guarantee I would ever be able to sell it for as much or more. Would someone else pay that much? I don't know. Just because somebody offered a comparable amount for a somewhat similar amp doesn't mean that's the going rate. They didn't even pay it in the end. Besides, there is no "going rate" for unique items - that'd be an oxymoron.

I believe most potential buyers will be daunted by the starting price. If you really wanted to sell the amp and see what people are willing to pay, you would start much lower. Of course if you are patient and willing to wait, stick to your guns, eventually someone could come along who is swimming in money and feels he must have that amp, but that could take several years.

 

[dodger916]

My bases for assumption are first and third. My basis for assuming is to never assume. I put in the work so every other
Harry and Lloyd can take credit and pretend they are experts.

Yes, and I have neglected to thank you lately.. :wink:

 

[dodger916]

That is where we differ. I value a C+ on performance and my ear is the judge.

I'm not sure you really differ, but are making both sides of the same argument. When he says "Upgrades just don't hold value, but may be just a fun to drive", I believe he saying it's performance that matters to drivers/players, like you. I believe he's saying an Upgrade won't hold value versus an Original. You're saying (as a player/driver) that finances aren't an immediate concern for you. I fail to see any difference. Nothing contradictory to my eyes.

I think it's true that in general, Collectors will pay more for an Original because it's....original, and there will always be exceptions that prove the rule. And while it's also true there are "unique buyers" for every item, being that there are also multiple solutions to the same challenge (Diezel, Soldano, Mark V, etc..), as a player, it's a fine line between "unique buyer" and "sucker". Overpaying for something does not, it and of itself, make the deal worthwhile.

Of course, I've been wrong before...

 

[kippiejr]

Honest in the way that all posters wish they had, could hear or plug into it and only one said it. It would only take one who had to have it. That one would not care if the car came back to Porche for a new chip. I don't have to sell any of my amps. If I can hit a home run I would.

 

[Boogiebabies]

Honest in the way that all posters wish they had, could hear or plug into it and only one said it. It would only take one who had to have it. That one would not care if the car came back to Porche for a new chip. I don't have to sell any of my amps. If I can hit a home run I would.

Those Steve Wong chips are bad ***, but they still keep the car original. Basically they allow the air fuel mixture to free the engine up to 50 HP more.

This amp is getting funnier than the Jesus grilled cheese.

 

[kippiejr]

Wait, why would anyone want a Porche anyway. There are so many better options.

 

[gts]

Kevin you should quit when you're ahead. Comments like the one above are only going to dig you a deeper hole....

 

[themisfit138]

Why is this $15000? Just buy a C+ coli and send it to Mike B. to do the ++ mod and save $12000.

 

[dodger916]

Why is this $15000? Just buy a C+ coli and send it to Mike B. to do the ++ mod and save $12000.

You clearly are not the "unique buyer" the seller had in mind..... :wink:

 

[kippiejr]

"just buy a C+Coli" :lol: That unique person has it now.

 

[adonixx]

"just buy a C+Coli" :lol: That unique person has it now.

You are right - correction, buy a C Coli, upgrade it and add ++ mod, and ask 15k for it.. nice 12k profit.

 

[JOEY B.]

Wait, why would anyone want a Porsche anyway. There are so many better options.

Because a 930 Turbo oozes the cool factor in spades. 8) 8)

FWIW, I would rather strap two DRG Mark IIC+ amps together in stereo, than pay a ridiculous price for a Coliseum model. The ++ mod does not increase the value of any IIC+, in my eyes or ears. Good luck with the sale!

 

[themisfit138]

Wait, why would anyone want a Porsche anyway. There are so many better options.

Because a 930 Turbo oozes the cool factor in spades. 8) 8)

FWIW, I would rather strap two DRG Mark IIC+ amps together in stereo, than pay a ridiculous price for a Coliseum model. The ++ mod does not increase the value of any IIC+, in my eyes or ears. Good luck with the sale!

That is what I was getting at. The ++ mod should not increase the value. I don't think I am alowed to talk mod prices, but it not very much.

 

[kippiejr]

Yeah, ok just let us know when you find that C Coli KARG :lol:

 

[gts]

Honest in the way that all posters wish they had, could hear or plug into it and only one said it. It would only take one who had to have it. That one would not care if the car came back to Porche for a new chip. I don't have to sell any of my amps. If I can hit a home run I would.

Those Steve Wong chips are bad ***, but they still keep the car original. Basically they allow the air fuel mixture to free the engine up to 50 HP more.

This amp is getting funnier than the Jesus grilled cheese.