Is there any MARK IV OR V HEADs in Canada for sale?

[CHATTERBOX]

I'm looking to buy a Boogie Mark IV or V head in Canada. HELP!

 

[Skyless7620]

I know it's not exactly what you asked for, but just lettign you know that I'm letting go of one of my Mark IIIs. It's a rackmounted green stripe with a 4 space ATA style roadcase.

 

[zappazapper]

don't know if you're specifically looking for a used one, but i know long & mcquade has lots of boogie stuff... and they offer great financing options... i've seen Mark V heads here in Brampton and at the Bloor Street store in Toronto... I'm sure every store probably has one... don't know what the closest store to trenton would be... maybe oshawa... l&m site says $2175... you might be able to talk them down because of the strong canadian dollar right now...

 

[YellowJacket]

An employee at the Scarborough L&MQ claims that they won't be carrying so much Mesa gear in the future although that sounds suspicious to me.
Is it just me, or are used goods in the GTA area generally overpriced? Everything here on the used market seems to cost between 5% - 35% more anywhere else these same items are sold.

 

[zappazapper]

An employee at the Scarborough L&MQ claims that they won't be carrying so much Mesa gear in the future although that sounds suspicious to me.

well, i can see it... i remember 5 years ago, when i worked at a rehearsal studio in toronto, everybody HAD to have a rectifier, now everybody HAS to have an ENGL or a KRANK... the recs are falling out of favor, and people don't seem to realize that mesa made thier name on a totally different kind of amplifier from the recs...

Is it just me, or are used goods in the GTA area generally overpriced? Everything here on the used market seems to cost between 5% - 35% more anywhere else these same items are sold.

ya well, that's the thing... i bought my .50 cal + from baton rouge louisiana off ebay, (USD) $650 + $250 shipping + $100 duty, and it was still a better deal than anything i could find on craigslist or kijiji... long & mcquade is great only because of the financing... thier prices are just as out of whack as anybody... if you want a gibson guitar, they'll have the best prices because yorkville is the canadian distributor, so any gibson that comes into canada goes through L&M anyway... but for anything else, prices are nuts... if the dollar can hold its value vs. the USD, you'll see things start to come down... i bought my ES-339 two years ago when the CND had been up for a while, sticker price $1850, and it's at $1999 now... it'll come back down in a bit... but right now if you haggle them a bit, they'll come down... but you have to remember that toronto is where almost everybody in canada comes if they want to be a serious musician so it's a sellers market... i bet prices in ottawa or even montreal are a little more reasonable...

 

[YellowJacket]

An employee at the Scarborough L&MQ claims that they won't be carrying so much Mesa gear in the future although that sounds suspicious to me.

well, i can see it... i remember 5 years ago, when i worked at a rehearsal studio in toronto, everybody HAD to have a rectifier, now everybody HAS to have an ENGL or a KRANK... the recs are falling out of favor, and people don't seem to realize that mesa made thier name on a totally different kind of amplifier from the recs...

Ya, I just don't feel the ENGLs but ya, I'm kind of bored of my Dual Rec. It is a great sounding head but ever since I tried the Electra Dyne, I simply love it. I know that certain tones fall in and out of favour but getting on the hot item everyone has can sound very generic, especially if the guitarist hasn't spent a good bit of time developing an individual sound on the instrument. The good news for me is that both of my cabs are DIY projects so they really sound very individual. I get at least somewhat of a personal sound that way.
This summer I am thinking of doing a 20watt plexi clone build kit from Trinity Amps. I need something a little quieter for small stuff. I'd prefer an Electra Dyne above all else but finances simply do not permit me to swap my Dual Rec for one and I'd rather keep the head since it was my first tube amp.

Is it just me, or are used goods in the GTA area generally overpriced? Everything here on the used market seems to cost between 5% - 35% more anywhere else these same items are sold.

ya well, that's the thing... i bought my .50 cal + from baton rouge louisiana off ebay, (USD) $650 + $250 shipping + $100 duty, and it was still a better deal than anything i could find on craigslist or kijiji... long & mcquade is great only because of the financing... thier prices are just as out of whack as anybody... if you want a gibson guitar, they'll have the best prices because yorkville is the canadian distributor, so any gibson that comes into canada goes through L&M anyway... but for anything else, prices are nuts... if the dollar can hold its value vs. the USD, you'll see things start to come down... i bought my ES-339 two years ago when the CND had been up for a while, sticker price $1850, and it's at $1999 now... it'll come back down in a bit... but right now if you haggle them a bit, they'll come down... but you have to remember that toronto is where almost everybody in canada comes if they want to be a serious musician so it's a sellers market... i bet prices in ottawa or even montreal are a little more reasonable...

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Yes, I am studying at U of T because I like to think I'm a serious musician as well. Every music store I have seen in Canada has high prices. I get the impression that when you buy off of ebay or the like, you eliminate the middle man which keeps costs down considerably. I've also heard the economic climate down south has really neutered used prices. I was watching some Electra Dyne auctions on Ebay and it was crazy to see how many times these guys would relist the heads. Basically almost new heads going for $1,200USD. Who thought they would see the day!?

Anyway, my current tone goal is to find a ripping awesome amp that hardly anyone has. I'd rather be my own guitarist than an MTV clone.

 

[zappazapper]

I'd prefer an Electra Dyne above all else but finances simply do not permit me to swap my Dual Rec for one and I'd rather keep the head since it was my first tube amp.

ya don't get me wrong, a dual rec is a boogie, whether they're in vogue or not has nothing to do with it... they're good sounding amps... as i said in another thread, personally i have an aversion to them because i used to run a rehearsal studio and it just seemed like all the poseurs had dual recs and weren't ashamed to let everybody know about it... i never understood how people got the idea that ownership = talent or ability... because i come from playing punk rock on crappy gear like peavey bandit 15s and the like, i've learned to rely on my playing... i have a boogie now, and i've had some pretty good amps in the past, and all kinds of pedals and multi-fx and the like, but if you give me my old squire strat with the plywood body and the bridge humbucker that feeds back on the clean channel and a little 15w solid state amp, i'll still be ok... not that i'm THAT good but i just think that "tone" and the accepted devices that supposedly create "good tone" have become cliches... the beatles did sgt. peppers on a 4-track machine that doesn't have as good sound quality as an iphone it's what you put into it...

Yes, I am studying at U of T because I like to think I'm a serious musician as well.

very cool... you're a braver man than me... i would have loved to go to university for guitar but i didn't really want to put myself in debt to prepare myself for a life in debt i would be a much better musician than i am, but i don't know if i'd be making much more money playing music than i am... i know alot of people that went to U of T that can't find regular work like i do... being a drummer and a bass player helps... be versatile and open-minded... virtuosity will only get you pats on the back and a false sense of accomplishment...


oh, and my apologies to CHATTERBOX... we seem to have taken over your thread... i hope you find what you're looking for...

 

[YellowJacket]

Time for a thread split!

ya don't get me wrong, a dual rec is a boogie, whether they're in vogue or not has nothing to do with it... they're good sounding amps... as i said in another thread, personally i have an aversion to them because i used to run a rehearsal studio and it just seemed like all the poseurs had dual recs and weren't ashamed to let everybody know about it... i never understood how people got the idea that ownership = talent or ability... because i come from playing punk rock on crappy gear like peavey bandit 15s and the like, i've learned to rely on my playing... i have a boogie now, and i've had some pretty good amps in the past, and all kinds of pedals and multi-fx and the like, but if you give me my old squire strat with the plywood body and the bridge humbucker that feeds back on the clean channel and a little 15w solid state amp, i'll still be ok... not that i'm THAT good but i just think that "tone" and the accepted devices that supposedly create "good tone" have become cliches... the beatles did sgt. peppers on a 4-track machine that doesn't have as good sound quality as an iphone it's what you put into it...

Hahaha. I recall someone saying on Talkbass how they hated warwicks because so many people loved them and were vocal about it. I was originally going to buy a Nomad 55 halfstack but when I went to my guitar tech, he had a used Dual Rec on consignment. I remember first hearing these amps and thinking that they were the perfect distortion tone. I always thought of the uber scooped marshall tones where all you heard was high and low. I disliked Marshall for this reason, preferring the creamier and more mid focused tone of Mesa. Truthfully, I really didn't have a firm idea of what sort of a tone I even wanted. I was using a Peavey Bandit 112 and I liked the Mesa Nomads because they sounded similar to this, but far better. (The Peavey Bandit is actually really good for a solid state. You just have to upgrade the speakers to make them shine) I went through so many gear changes looking for my ideal tone and as that tone changed, I changed gear. I did discover that I loved the sound of a Les Paul and I got one. I think this guitar will always be the core of my tone as a guitarist, but it wasn't until I tried an Electra Dyne that I really found an amp that is simply me.

very cool... you're a braver man than me... i would have loved to go to university for guitar but i didn't really want to put myself in debt to prepare myself for a life in debt i would be a much better musician than i am, but i don't know if i'd be making much more money playing music than i am... i know alot of people that went to U of T that can't find regular work like i do... being a drummer and a bass player helps... be versatile and open-minded... virtuosity will only get you pats on the back and a false sense of accomplishment...

HAHAHA! There is a huge difference between playing a lot of notes and knowing what notes to play. I'm actually in university for music composition. I'm doing a DMA right now. I just happen to put time in on Guitar, Bass guitar, Cello, and occasionally Piano. If I was a guitar major, I would have already sprung for the Electra Dyne and not thought twice about it.
University definitely doesn't guarantee a career. There are many people who go there who don't know why they are there or what they want. There are some who shouldn't be there, but they are. There are others who just simply know how to 'play the game' at academia but don't actually learn what they need to when it comes to being successful. Furthermore, university is such a traditionalist approach. In general, it isn't a terribly flexible approach to becoming an instrumentalist. You generally will either learn classical, jazz, or both. To play more 'commercial music' you go somewhere like Humber, Grant Mac, or even Berkley. Granted, these institutions are still fairly jazz focused, but I understand there is room for 'the other' as well. There are even some really talented people but like you said, it is tough to figure out how to make money being a musician.
Not to knock an education too much. At school, one does learn skills that can be applied to better oneself as a musician. I know with my education, I am a far better musician than I used to be.

You know, if you have a jamspace we should jam. I need to get my bass out and rip on it. Haven't had a chance to give my new markbass head a good run yet!!

oh, and my apologies to CHATTERBOX... we seem to have taken over your thread... i hope you find what you're looking for...

This thread needs to be split.

 

[CHATTERBOX]

Time for a thread split!

ya don't get me wrong, a dual rec is a boogie, whether they're in vogue or not has nothing to do with it... they're good sounding amps... as i said in another thread, personally i have an aversion to them because i used to run a rehearsal studio and it just seemed like all the poseurs had dual recs and weren't ashamed to let everybody know about it... i never understood how people got the idea that ownership = talent or ability... because i come from playing punk rock on crappy gear like peavey bandit 15s and the like, i've learned to rely on my playing... i have a boogie now, and i've had some pretty good amps in the past, and all kinds of pedals and multi-fx and the like, but if you give me my old squire strat with the plywood body and the bridge humbucker that feeds back on the clean channel and a little 15w solid state amp, i'll still be ok... not that i'm THAT good but i just think that "tone" and the accepted devices that supposedly create "good tone" have become cliches... the beatles did sgt. peppers on a 4-track machine that doesn't have as good sound quality as an iphone it's what you put into it...

Hahaha. I recall someone saying on Talkbass how they hated warwicks because so many people loved them and were vocal about it. I was originally going to buy a Nomad 55 halfstack but when I went to my guitar tech, he had a used Dual Rec on consignment. I remember first hearing these amps and thinking that they were the perfect distortion tone. I always thought of the uber scooped marshall tones where all you heard was high and low. I disliked Marshall for this reason, preferring the creamier and more mid focused tone of Mesa. Truthfully, I really didn't have a firm idea of what sort of a tone I even wanted. I was using a Peavey Bandit 112 and I liked the Mesa Nomads because they sounded similar to this, but far better. (The Peavey Bandit is actually really good for a solid state. You just have to upgrade the speakers to make them shine) I went through so many gear changes looking for my ideal tone and as that tone changed, I changed gear. I did discover that I loved the sound of a Les Paul and I got one. I think this guitar will always be the core of my tone as a guitarist, but it wasn't until I tried an Electra Dyne that I really found an amp that is simply me.

very cool... you're a braver man than me... i would have loved to go to university for guitar but i didn't really want to put myself in debt to prepare myself for a life in debt i would be a much better musician than i am, but i don't know if i'd be making much more money playing music than i am... i know alot of people that went to U of T that can't find regular work like i do... being a drummer and a bass player helps... be versatile and open-minded... virtuosity will only get you pats on the back and a false sense of accomplishment...

HAHAHA! There is a huge difference between playing a lot of notes and knowing what notes to play. I'm actually in university for music composition. I'm doing a DMA right now. I just happen to put time in on Guitar, Bass guitar, Cello, and occasionally Piano. If I was a guitar major, I would have already sprung for the Electra Dyne and not thought twice about it.
University definitely doesn't guarantee a career. There are many people who go there who don't know why they are there or what they want. There are some who shouldn't be there, but they are. There are others who just simply know how to 'play the game' at academia but don't actually learn what they need to when it comes to being successful. Furthermore, university is such a traditionalist approach. In general, it isn't a terribly flexible approach to becoming an instrumentalist. You generally will either learn classical, jazz, or both. To play more 'commercial music' you go somewhere like Humber, Grant Mac, or even Berkley. Granted, these institutions are still fairly jazz focused, but I understand there is room for 'the other' as well. There are even some really talented people but like you said, it is tough to figure out how to make money being a musician.
Not to knock an education too much. At school, one does learn skills that can be applied to better oneself as a musician. I know with my education, I am a far better musician than I used to be.

You know, if you have a jamspace we should jam. I need to get my bass out and rip on it. Haven't had a chance to give my new markbass head a good run yet!!

oh, and my apologies to CHATTERBOX... we seem to have taken over your thread... i hope you find what you're looking for...

This thread needs to be split.

LOL! I've been involved in the same type of seques! No worries here! On another thread some poor guy (Phoenix) asked about better cleans in a recto and I spouted off about his amp choice. I wasn't very helpful and I apologize. Chats can go anywhere. I guess that's why we're here. Anyway, I believe I found my Mark IV in Canada but can't get cocky until it shows up at my door!
Cheerz
Lads!