First Gig with Triaxis

[gezza]

Hi Guys,

well the first one is always the hardest. Right.

All those hours of tweaking, did it work????

Yes and No.

I had some issues.

I have 50/50 EL34 they are really meaty/mean.

I had a howling problem in my dirty lead/rhythm, that I just couldn't get rid of.

Now I'm playing at the same volume as before with my ADA-3TM and it doesn't howl.

So I'm looking at my Custom made speaker as it may be the cause.

It was a A or E string howl, if that makes any sense, so it has a lot of bottom.

The cleans are fantastic, not sure about the rest yet.

There were moments of excellence there for sure.

I just had a hard time getting a handle on things, volume wise.

I did change the Valves before the gig, with some high gain ones,

Now i only changed V1, V2 and V4, but i believe i should have changed V3 instead of V2.

Any Help would be appreciated,

Thanks,

Gezza (Brisbane - Australia)

 

[disassembled]

Just a little tip:

Never set your tone for a gig at low levels when you're alone. You should definitely get together with the entire band or just part (maybe just drummer and bass or just bass) and walk around and listen to your tone. You might be overdriving something in the chain, set the controls wrong, have a bad tube (even one of the new tubes could be "bad"), speakers couldn't take your settings, etc.

I use a few different cabs with my amps : Mesa 2X12 halfback or 112 thieles.

Check the settings gallery on the site for suggestions. Also, there are tons of places on the net for tips (like Tony Mckenzie's site, Triaxis yahoo group, the old Mesa forum, etc).


Good luck,
Greg

 

[18&Life]

Just a little tip:

Never set your tone for a gig at low levels when you're alone. You should definitely get together with the entire band or just part (maybe just drummer and bass or just bass) and walk around and listen to your tone. You might be overdriving something in the chain, set the controls wrong, have a bad tube (even one of the new tubes could be "bad"), speakers couldn't take your settings, etc.

+ 1.000.000.000.000

The howling it's not triaxis fault,it's yours.
Mine never did that and I play with 2.90 at very ,I mean very loud volumes.
You should rehearsal with your band and as already said by greg,make your tone in a real band situation. :wink:

 

[gezza]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for that,

Just for the record I have been playing for 25years, so I'm not a newbe.


I have had so many different amps, I have lost count.


Does anyone have some recommendations for replacing the 12ax7 tubes.

I had a look they are Mesa 12ax7-a Russian 2 Tubes.

I put in 3x JJ ECC803S matched and grade 120.

As stated in positions - V1, V2 and V4.

Can anyone tell me if this is right??

I would have thought V1, V3 and V4 would be better.

I still believe it's the speaker as it was custom made, so that's where I'll start. I have 2 other speaker to check.

Thanks,

Gezza

 

[gezza]

Hi All,

Good news, well sort of.

I got a chance to try the speaker, yep.

It howls at loud volumes, It tested two other speakers and they don't do it.

So I replaced the speaker, for the mean time.

Ok, I decided to buy a Satellite 60 watt.

I figure it's 60 watts uses 2 x 6L6, has the Black shadow speaker.

Saves me lugging around, separate power amp, Speaker.

I really think Boogies love 6L6 more than EL34.

I get it it 2 weeks, man I hope I made the right choice.

I think a Boogie Satellite with a Triaxis should be a killer combo.

Thanks Guys,

Gezza.

 

[disassembled]

It will sound like plugging into a 60 watt green stripe Mark III so it should work great. The simul satellite would have been ideal since it has the graphic EQ but it is not 100% necessary.


Good luck.

Try finding some EV 12L's to replace your speakers.

Greg

 

[gezza]

Hi Guys.

I have now done 3 more gigs.

I am still no closer to finding any tones I like.

I have changed V!, V2, V4 to some high gain 12AX7 JJ.

I have changed the speaker 4 times and the speaker box 1 x 12.

I had a great Green Rhythm then due to the fact I can't hear it, I turned up the master volume, now is sounds nasty.

I can't get any good dirty rhythms, they all squeal as I can't get it loud enough.

There seems to enough gain, but sound like too much Mids.

Tried playing with the DV, didn't help.

Tried messing with the Gain and Ld Drv still no help.

At this point I am at a loss for words, not getting it to sound the way I want.

My 60 watt Sateliite arrives this week, so I'll guess I will wait


But this is seriously up for sale after 2 more gigs, it just hasn't got the magic I thought it did.

I plugged in my ADA 3TM, at the same volume, Not a peep or a squeal

I hope I can't get this too work.

Gezza

 

[JLagoon]

What are your settings?

Maybe the presence on the TriAxis is too high

 

[disassembled]

Sounds like you might have a faulty triaxis. You did buy it used right? I suggest taking it down to a music and using the TA with a known good power amp and a name brand cab. The TA has line level outputs and the impedance might be a mismatch for your power amp.

If it isn't for you then it isn't for you but the TA doesn't normally exhibit the things you describe (lack of volume, extreme noise, etc) only through user error, internal fault (to include tubes), or other equipment problems.

What brand of power amp and what brand of speaker cabs are you using?

Greg

 

[gezza]

Hi Guys,

I don't quit on things, because they're too hard.

I think the problem I'm having is this.

I have the TA output volume on 3/10

I run the TA in the Effects loop of my GT8 output volume is on 7/10.

I then have my 50/50 watt power-amp on 7/10 as valve amps sound better pushed.

I believe I have the TA set too low in Volume, I have also discover the GT8 Effects loop is set to 100 for send and 100 for receive, which is about 5 for each. So i have further adjustments thee also.

Step One, I have now increased the volume on the TA to 5 on the out output, I then reduced the master Volumes.

Now Changing the Tubes on the TA helped also.

Next gig this Friday,

Stay tuned,

Gezza

 

[18&Life]

I run the TA in the Effects loop of my GT8 output volume is on 7/10.

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

 

[gezza]

Hi again,

Ok I changed the valves one more time,

At home sounds awesome, but at the gig, here we go again.

It really sounds like something is overdriven. The clean sound like they have distortion in them, the dirty channels sound like a blanket is over them.

So keeping calm.

1. I plugged into the GT8 using the 4CM which I believe puts the TA in Parallel. I think.

2. Move the position of the speaker, this can really help, especially if your not getting the sweet spot.

3. I changed the Valves, I remember that V2 has a super Hot 12ax7, so I swapped that for an old Phillips 12AX7.

4. I changed channels on the amp, one side has the original EL34 and the other has brand new JJ-EL34L. The old one just sounds so good.

OMFG!!! there is was, my boogie sound, I don't where it came from as I was ready to cry and go home.

But I was really happy for the last set.

The leads where fantastic and the Rhythms where awesome.

I don't know what exactly out if the sequence above made the difference, but It was a Night and day kind of difference.

I knew there was magic in there, just got to keep looking.

Gezza.

 

[18&Life]

crazy people are funny :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[gezza]

I was wondering when you where going to pipe in.

Look don't waste your time!! mate.

There are a lot of people here, who are in the same boat as me.

We have a Triaxis and are looking for help to get it right.

I have been playing guitar for 28years, so I'm not some stupid pimpley face kid who knows nothing.

You have been warned!!!!

I don't take **** from anyone, that means you too.

Gezza.

 

[18&Life]

see like I said,crazy people are funny :lol:
For God's sake Triaxis is just a pre,not a mambo jambo rocket science !!!
Plug your guitar in triaxis,them effects,then a power amp.
What is so difficult ?
It's the best pre ever.You have to be very smart to make it sound bad.
Hummm 28 years playing and you don't know how to use a pre !
Hummm I prefer my 20 years playing :wink:

 

[schnarf]

Well if it sounds fine at home and bad at the gig, what are you turning up to get more volume? If you're just turning up the power amp, then it's the power amp's fault. Maybe the GT8's hitting the triaxis input too hard?

 

[gezza]

Hello Schnarf.

Ist things first.

18&stupid, I did warn you.

Have something intelligent to say or just piss off.

You picked the wrong person to play with.

Stop wasting my valuable time.

Maybe for dick heads like you, most of us everything is trial and error.

Meaning we have ears that we fine tune our sounds. perhaps you just put it all together and it like it.

Some of us have specific tastes and tones we are looking for, perhaps beyond you comprehension.

Hi Schnarf, sorry about that.

I think it might be a combination of a few things.

As soon as I get my Satellite I will have a better chance of locating my problem, as I only have one amp to test with.

Gezza.

 

[18&Life]

Why are you so rude ?
I didn't do any kind of insult to your person or something.
I'm here to help you too.
I'm wasting my time too !!!!!
Buy some sense of humour !!
28 years playing !!
What a musician without sense of humour.
Luck me,I'm full of sense of humour,life is so **** goooooooooooood !!!



And be careful at your age living that way is dangerous,laughing is goooooood :lol:

 

[gezza]

Just be careful !!!

You say your just having fun.

You say you want to help. Prove it.

You cross the line and insult instead of give advice.

I have a great sense of humor,

This is funny too me, hehe.

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the Kitchen. Mate!!!!

If you have something to contribute, then be all means I will listen to anyone with good advice.

If you just want to waste my time, too late you already have.

Gezza.

 

[18&Life]

:lol: :lol: :lol:
wow I can stand the heat,I made hell :lol:
Easy.Play only with triaxis ,nothing more.Use a headphone.
Find your tones.
Then plug it into a power amp,still carving your tones.
Found your tones so NOW use the rest of your gear.
If the rest of your gear ruins the tones you've found,at least you will know triaxis is not the problem but the way you are connecting your stuff.
Very Obvious. :wink: