Eventides!

[Trace]

Ok, I'm very seriously looking into buying an eventide. I love them, they sound great, and have that Angel Echo. But my question is mainly on the angel echo, is that found on the ModFacter listed as Undulator? It sounds really similar, but there's nothing called "Angel Echo" (if you're not familiar Petrucci uses it in the intro of Great Debate). Anyone know if that is the same thing, and if Eventides are really worth their fairly hefty price tag?

 

[DeFrag]

I haven't tried Eventides but hear they are DEFINATELY worth the extra dough. Up there in quality as TC Electronic. Go try one out!

 

[Trace]

Yeah that's about the problem, heh. I can't find a dealer around my area.

 

[DeFrag]

Buy one from Sweetwater. They have excellent service, selection, & return policies & prices.

 

[tony777]

Ok, I'm very seriously looking into buying an eventide. I love them, they sound great, and have that Angel Echo. But my question is mainly on the angel echo, is that found on the ModFacter listed as Undulator? It sounds really similar, but there's nothing called "Angel Echo" (if you're not familiar Petrucci uses it in the intro of Great Debate). Anyone know if that is the same thing, and if Eventides are really worth their fairly hefty price tag?

The structure of the angelic echoes (the preset that John use on the great debate) is a pitch shifter into delay into reverb, and the feedback of the delay is tweaked to not go through the pitch shifter.
The sound you get is an extremely wet pitch shifted sound with tons of reverb, then you get the delayed dry sound at your delay setting (500ms is the factory setting) then it blends into a padded sound.
I love this preset it sounds absolutely lovely with clean guitar as well.

I am pretty sure you can not do that on the mod factor, and absolutely not with the undulator which is a multitap delay structure.
I know the Angelic echoes preset is on the eclipse, DSP 7000/7500,Orville, H7600 and H8000.

So the bottom line is:
Sell all your telecasters and get yourself a full blown eventide, they are miles ahead of TC stuff
(we need to talk system 6000, to get even, and they have a hefty price tag as well)

Tony

 

[jdurso]

Ok, I'm very seriously looking into buying an eventide. I love them, they sound great, and have that Angel Echo. But my question is mainly on the angel echo, is that found on the ModFacter listed as Undulator? It sounds really similar, but there's nothing called "Angel Echo" (if you're not familiar Petrucci uses it in the intro of Great Debate). Anyone know if that is the same thing, and if Eventides are really worth their fairly hefty price tag?

The structure of the angelic echoes (the preset that John use on the great debate) is a pitch shifter into delay into reverb, and the feedback of the delay is tweaked to not go through the pitch shifter.
The sound you get is an extremely wet pitch shifted sound with tons of reverb, then you get the delayed dry sound at your delay setting (500ms is the factory setting) then it blends into a padded sound.
I love this preset it sounds absolutely lovely with clean guitar as well.

I am pretty sure you can not do that on the mod factor, and absolutely not with the undulator which is a multitap delay structure.
I know the Angelic echoes preset is on the eclipse, DSP 7000/7500,Orville, H7600 and H8000.

So the bottom line is:
Sell all your telecasters and get yourself a full blown eventide, they are miles ahead of TC stuff
(we need to talk system 6000, to get even, and they have a hefty price tag as well)

Tony

i agree with tony.... those patches from the harmonizers (which is what petrucci uses) cannot be reproduced with either the modfactor or timefactor or even the two in union because they dont have the pitchshifting capabilities or the editing capabilities of the harmonizer line.... if i were you i'd go with the eclipse as they're a little more live guitar rig friendly.... they have a global setting just for guitar which the h3000 units dont.... also the h3000s had switching issues (1-2 to switch :shock: ) which is something they addressed in the eclipse.... i think i just talked myself into building an eclipse :twisted: