Eq this and that

[Geiri]

What eq are you guy's using? Anybody care to elaborate on eq's ? Which brands are better and such.
I only tried two different kinds. I tested an old mxr 5 band eq and it didn't have an off/on switch. So I didn't like it plus it sounded weird to me it kinda took over the amps tone.

Then I've been using the Gsys eq and that works well but I'm selling the Gsys so I'd like to buy an eq pedal which I can kick in when needed.

Thanx

Geiri

 

[stephen sawall]

I do not use it. But the MXR is very popular.

 

[Laskyman]

MXR 10 band


Laskyman

 

[jab]

Boss GE7, but only because I have it. Seems people really like the MXR 10 band. There is also a MonteAllums mod kit for the GE7 which gets some really great reviews for clearing up the tone. Only $30 so thinking of trying it.

 

[Geiri]

Well it seems to me that the mxr 10 band eq is very popular. Is there any difference between the kerry king model and the regular one ?

Has anyone tried the danelectro fish'n'chips 7 band eq ?

 

[Laskyman]

Has anyone tried the danelectro fish'n'chips 7 band eq

Yep- I have one. Its really a great pedal for the money, and quieter than the GE7 I had prior. The ONLY problem is it gets squeaky when using batteries, and is not as durable as I would like- but that dont matter if you take care of your gear...
laskyman

 

[stephen sawall]

Well it seems to me that the mxr 10 band eq is very popular. Is there any difference between the kerry king model and the regular one ?

Has anyone tried the danelectro fish'n'chips 7 band eq ?

The KK has two outputs because he used it for a splitter. That and the paint job I think is it.

 

[DeFrag]

I have enough EQ in my signal path. It seems that every unit has tone controls: guitar, numerous pedals, my amp, the mixer, DAW.. where does it end?

Consider how many tone controls there are in your chain. Include signal coloration by knobs that aren't specificially labeled Bass, Treble, Mid, Fat, Muscle, Presence, High, Low, & Frequency. Every knob that modifies the signal: Sweep, Rate, Level, Mix, etc. colors the resulting output. Couple that idea with the endless cascades of pedals into pedals & one finally concludes that the endless variation of frustrating possibilities exist that is almost
insurmountable in seeking that perfect tone for which we all strive.

My guitar, my pedals, my amps, my mixer... all have tone controls. Are they working together or are they fighting each other? How to best set them ALL & in what combinations? If you set the best tone with pedals that are on, what happens if you turn one off & add two more into play? What a nightmare. If you have a tone control on each of 10 effects as well as your amp, it can be rather difficult to dial in your sound when they're all on. True, we hardly run 10 effects at once but conceptually, aren't they all fighting each other? Which Bass knob should you attenuate?

 

[Turumbar82]

I have enough EQ in my signal path. It seems that every unit has tone controls: guitar, numerous pedals, my amp, the mixer, DAW.. where does it end?

Consider how many tone controls there are in your chain. Include signal coloration by knobs that aren't specificially labeled Bass, Treble, Mid, Fat, Muscle, Presence, High, Low, & Frequency. Every knob that modifies the signal: Sweep, Rate, Level, Mix, etc. colors the resulting output. Couple that idea with the endless cascades of pedals into pedals & one finally concludes that the endless variation of frustrating possibilities exist that is almost
insurmountable in seeking that perfect tone for which we all strive.

My guitar, my pedals, my amps, my mixer... all have tone controls. Are they working together or are they fighting each other? How to best set them ALL & in what combinations? If you set the best tone with pedals that are on, what happens if you turn one off & add two more into play? What a nightmare. If you have a tone control on each of 10 effects as well as your amp, it can be rather difficult to dial in your sound when they're all on. True, we hardly run 10 effects at once but conceptually, aren't they all fighting each other? Which Bass knob should you attenuate?

Good points! That's a lot of eq'ing.

 

[Dolebludger]

I use the MXR Kerry King in my FX loop. I bought it to get rid of some "nasal" tone that I couldn't seem get rid of otherwise. I found it at 500 HZ and cut it a bit and problem solved. This graphic EQ also can be made to "clean up the mud" a bit. Adding such an EQ is like icing on the cake. It won't make a huge difference, but it can clean things up a bit. I would prefer it if mine were a 7 band, as I think 10 bands is over-kill and makes the effect harder to use. I'd heard so much about noise and unreliability on the Boss EQ that I avoided it. Can't say much about the Danelectro "fish n chips" except that it has a plastic structure that worries me about durability.

 

[soundchaser59]

The MXR stuff is noisy, second only to EHX stuff. All the mods that are or were available (mine was the Sniper modded) are aimed almost completely at reducing the noise level. It is "monolithic" components inside, which I think basically means "chips." The mod didn't help all that much, imo....

I had the MXR 10 band and the Allums modded GE7 side by side. It only took about an hour, and I put the MXR up for sale and it was gone about 4 hours after I listed it. I dont miss it.

If you are playing live, the noise may nbot matter that much to you. I'm recording, so the Allums GE7 is the only choice for my needs. Sounds better, runs quieter, and I have never had a single repair problem with any Boss pedal in over 25 years.......but I pamper my gear.

You can find already modded pedals on ebay, but you ahve to be choosy and careful and ask the right questions. A lot of people on ebay buy and sell guitar pedals that they have never used and are not the original owners. Buy from an original owner who did the mod himself, and get a "written" promise to return it if it doesn't work right after you try it. Better yet, buy a mint condition GE7 for $40-50 bucks and mod it yourself. Allums has great mods.

 

[Laskyman]

My MXR 10 band is silent. So is my Dano Fish and Chips. The Boss GE7 on the other hand was a noisy pedal, but the MXR is silent.

Laskyman

 

[Dolebludger]

Yes, my MXR KFK 10 band is silent as well. I don't record at the moment (but I can hope, can't I?). Yet, if I hook up an effect that makes noise (or any other unwanted sounds), I lose it quickly. Now, this is not to say that MXR EQs are the only quiet ones. But if you've encountered a noisy one, there is some malfunction.

 

[Geiri]

Well I've now tried two mxr 6 band eq's and they both sound nasty. Don't know what the problem is but the eq in my G Sys did not sound like this. No matter how I tweak 'em to my ears there is always this nasty character that creeps along.

So what I'll try next is to hook up a pd xt bean to the effects loop and see if the eq in that one works.

 

[Dolebludger]

I got an MXR catalog in the box with the EQ I recently bought, and didn't see a 6 band model. I didn't see one when I was looking for an EQ on web sites either. I wonder, is your EQ used or an older model? My experience with Mesa's is this (and I've owned two and played on many). An add-on EQ won't make a nasty tone great. It will only make a "pretty good" tone great. I've never found add-on EQs to be a "magic wand" for Mesas -- just icing on the cake.

 

[Geiri]

Yeah I know what you mean. But I was just after an eq for a little tonal variant to the amp's sound. And that's what I got with the g sys. These eq's I tried are both used and maby the 10 band sounds more transparent. That's the key word, transparency, You see, when I hooked up the other two eq's they altered the sound even when set flat. But eq for me is more of a fun than having anything important to do with my tone. So if the pod eq sucks a$$ I won't loose any sleep over it. If I need some tone shaping for the stiletto, what usually works for me is to crank that thing to ridiculous volume level and play for some amount of time. Then when I turn down the vol again my ears are clean and I have no need for eq what so ever

 

[Dolebludger]

This may be a stupid question, but what is a g sys? I tend to be a "tone freak" and I might be interested. And BTW, my MXR 10 band EQ (new) leaves the tone the way it is with all sliders set on zero.

 

[Geiri]

Not stupid question at all.
Tc electronics G system. One unit too rule them all

Had to sell mine due to shortage of cash flow But I think I have solved the eq thing. I'm going for a parametric eq in stead of a graphic so now my sight is set on presonus EQ3B. The eq in the g system is parametric and is really good since it seems to be totally transparent.

 

[KH Guitar Freak]

I use a MXR KFK EQ pedal in conjunction with my Roadster, sounds good to me...

 

[ryjan]

Check out the eq's from samson. They are studio quality and reasonably priced. Plus a couple of their models are programable with midi.