Dual Rec FX loop

[backwordsman13]

sucks...

 

[ToneAddictJon]

I know why a lot people think this, but I love the parallel loop. It keeps the true tone and lets you mix in whatever amount of fx you want seperate from the original signal.

 

[stompboxfreak72]

I agree with Tone addiction. I do admit that some fx are not parallel friendly. I only use delay in the loop. I put chorus and phaser in front of the amp and not the loop and I am getting by just fine

 

[backwordsman13]

its just sooooo noisy... to the point where i cannot hear my fx without turning the wet down and then the amp sounds like ass

i guess i didnt mean it sucked, just a pain

 

[ToneAddictJon]

Make sure you have the mix control on the amp as low as possible, and the effects full wet (no dry signal), then slowly turn up the mix on the amp until you get the mix you want. There shouldn't be any noise whatsoever (unless you have the gain cranked on the amp).

 

[backwordsman13]

well, yeah the noise is only on the gain channels and i called mesa to see what i could do and the guy was like "well, what do you expext, a quiet high gain amp?" and i was like "yeah, pretty much." and then he said, "oh, well, uhhhhh..." yeah so... i don't really know what to do. Is it possible that there is a ground loop that i do not know about? or is that just how it works?

 

[insideout]

If the noise really bothers you, I believe your options are a noise gate, or turn the gain down. I've never met an amp that was quiet when the gain is cranked. That's why they make noise gates.

If it's a ground loop issue, it will be more of a hum than a hiss, and it would be on all channels regardless of gain level. Best way to check that is unplug everything from the circuit except your amp. If it still makes noise, it's not ground loop.

 

[backwordsman13]

yeah, i know... but im kinda sad still

 

[Spherion]

My TR seems louder than it 's should too. I mean, everything's fine until I connect the FX loop. Granted, I'm going through 3 multifx processors but still... Although I haven't tried just using one, which I suspect won't make a difference, but the hum DOES seem a lot louder than it should. It's more of a buzz than a hum even.

My signal path is as follows:

Guitar > GCX Audio Switcher IN > GCX Guitar OUT > TR IN > TR FX OUT > GCX IN > Y-cable splitter > FX 1 > FX 2 > FX 3 > Y-Cable back in to GCX > GCX OUT to FX Return set at 100% (Mix done in FX) > 4 x 12

To come close to clipping I have to set the FX send all the way up AND the Master around 3 o'clock but now I'm settling for a -12 input signal on the processors all using line level +4 (-1 gain trim on the last one to even the effects volume with the amp). Tried my Pro Hush to silence. It cut about 20% of the hum by going directly into it from the guitar. Didn't appear to cut much of anything at all when putting it after the FX send. However, I still think it's too loud of a hum, noise gate or not.

Arrgh. Half tempted to revert to a Triaxis/2:90 setup, but I like the tone of the Dual Rectifier too much to give up yet.

 

[backwordsman13]

yup that's what mine seems like

 

[Supertgtr]

Do you set your FX rack on top of your amp? That can actually cause noise too. Place your rack off to the side.
I use a Hush triple C directly in front of my G-major fx processor in my fx loop, and it works very well.

 

[matfiej]

Hi!
I got some problems with my dual rec FX loop, too. When I try to plug my Tc Electronic SCF it works but on very low volume, when I try to inceraese the volume, or make more intensive chorus effect there comes a lot of noise from my amp. The amp is from about 93-94 and the loop hasn't been topuched since the amp was made. Maybe you could help me with this problem. And one more thing I'm from Europe and the amp, and the effect are "american versions".
Thanks