Did everyone see the New Triple Crown?

[OldTelecasterMan]

I just watched the demo of the Triple Crown. This may be another must have for my arsenal. I have been waiting for a full on EL34 amp. I also have been eyeing the Friedman BE-100 and the Steve Stevens but I'm not sold on them. I have problems with having no dealer/repair locally. Mesa Always stands behind the product and the technicians are awesome.

The Triple Crown is MIDI and that is really cool. I looked for the manual but it is not in the Mesa site yet. $1799.00 aint bad.

 

[jb's 52]

Yeah...*********!!
I dunno though...50W has never really done it for me.
I'd have to hear and play this in a band context with my damn loud drummer

 

[OldTelecasterMan]

50 watts... should be enough to combat a drummer. I think the Triple Crown would sound very nice along with a Mark V. El34s will be a nice contrast to the 6L6. The MIDI thing should be very cool.

 

[abe]

I played a Stilleto Ace for seven years, and that's what I really wished that it would have been. The gain sounds similar and you are given all of that flexibility and reverb. I would like to hear the high gain settings with anything other than what those guys were playing though. I know how old that makes me sound, but I want to hear someone playing Dokken on the high gain settings!

Also, and maybe this is just me, but if you are not given a choice between 50 and 100 watts you will never know the difference. It's headroom and maybe some additional thump, but there isn't much of a volume difference. My amps are always mic'd, even at practice, but before I started using a mic at practice the Ace was more than enough to keep up. That being said, I use 90 mide on my Mark V because I think that it sounds better, even at low volume.

 

[J.J]

50 watt vs 100 is an interesting thing. I have two JCM800 amps, one 50 and the other 100 watts. There really isn't a lot of difference volume wise, not that would matter... The 50 watt definitely has more complex and interesting harmonics and is slightly looser in the bass. I like them both, but slightly prefer the 100 watt head. For a gig either one is fine.

The my other Meas amps, the ED and RA100 that are both 100 watt class amps, but can switch out a pair of bottles for half power and I run both differently. I like the ED in 45w mode as it is tighter and the RA in 100 for the same reason, it's tighter.

As far as the TC 50 goes, the pictures show it to have decent sized iron and I'd expect the power stage to be fairly well optimised and solid. As long as it isn't trying to push more bass than a pair of EL34 tubes can handle all should be good.

I'm interested in the combo and suspect that small speaker enclosure and semi open config may be a bigger factor than the 50 watts.

 

[bandit2013]

I played a Stilleto Ace for seven years, and that's what I really wished that it would have been. The gain sounds similar and you are given all of that flexibility and reverb. I would like to hear the high gain settings with anything other than what those guys were playing though. I know how old that makes me sound, but I want to hear someone playing Dokken on the high gain settings!

Also, and maybe this is just me, but if you are not given a choice between 50 and 100 watts you will never know the difference. It's headroom and maybe some additional thump, but there isn't much of a volume difference. My amps are always mic'd, even at practice, but before I started using a mic at practice the Ace was more than enough to keep up. That being said, I use 90 mide on my Mark V because I think that it sounds better, even at low volume.

I would have to agree with you. Not everyone is into that type of heavy metal. At least other forms or perhaps old school heavy rock would be great.

 

[bandit2013]

I am interested in this amp, thanks for the tip it was released on the Mesa site. However, I would prefer a 100W version even if it only provides a +3db difference (assumed). I can run most of my amps at half power but rarely do this ( I should more often than not as the half power can be rewarding).

Head is about the same width as the Mark V so it would fit well on a Vertical 212 cab. Also would have loved to hear a demo of it with the 6L6 as they covered the 6V6 and EL34 in the video.

 

[Joshwah333]

The simple, straight forward design of the front panel of this amp appears to help you find any tone fast. I think the 50 watt power section is designed to make it easier to switch tube types if you wanted to change the sound (due to only having 2 tubes). I have a loud drummer and my Mark V 35 actually keeps up with him (we play in a metal band). I think 50 watts will be just fine volume wise while offering the increased gain saturation that lower wattage amps tend to display. I will say that Mesa amps with lower wattage setups seem to be louder in general than other amps of similar wattage. My Hughes and Kettner Grandmeister is a little quieter than the Mark V 35, even technically being 1 watt more. Mesa Engineering FTW!!!

The way Mesa displays this product on their website, as a new series altogether, tells me there will be other models to come. So I'm waiting on those before deciding which one to get. I would predict a 10/25 watt mini head version similar to the mini rectifier in the $1200 range (perhaps even a combo version of this setup too) BUT I would really like to see a 25/50/100 head version (I predict a price range of $2100). I'd rather spend a couple hundred $$ more if multi-watt settings are available, even though I'll probably use 50 watts the most.

I really like the Celestion V30 speaker in the 112 combo of this series. Mesa is listening to its players! I heard many people swapping the speaker of the Mark V35 to the Celestion V30 because it sounds better. Cab Clone is a great feature as well (sounds great on the Mark V 35). I wish the reverb knobs were on the front though! As far a looks, it's damn sexy - bound to attract players of all genres. The rectifier series may attract more rock/metal players due to it's appearance, so Mesa did a great job in making this amp appear genre neutral.

I'm always looking forward to what Mesa creates next.

 

[Dreamtheaterrules]

If they do a smaller, multi-watt, I REALLY hope it's 5/15/25 like the TA15 was, because the 5 watt SE Class A setting was GREAT for lower volume home playing, and all three modes had significantly different feel and tone and all were great. I find that with my Mini Rec and V25 I almost never use the 10 watt setting. With the TA15, I was flipping constantly, based on what I wanted to hear at the time.

 

[bandit2013]

The review on Sweetwater was a bit different, still sounds good though. May have to get one even though it is 50W.

 

[mesa metal]

is the triple crown going to have it's own thread section......i dont have one yet but i may get one while the numbers are fairly low....all the demos iv seen sound great...

 

[jonnyf]

I just checked out the new Triple Crown demo on Mesa's website.

It does sound very nice and I felt it was similar to the Royal Atlantic as in very British sounding. The lead tone was in your face (middle biased) possibly due to the 2x EL34 valves (tubes) installed and the crunch sound was very nice too, sweet as a Crunchie bar (I can feel my wallet twitching, lol).

It would make a nice addition for some alternative solid rock sounds. I'm guessing that the 50 watt powertrain will deliver a more power tube saturated tone at lower headroom compared to a 100 watt monster, which could be an additional bonus in smaller club venues. Overall, I really like the sound of the TC50.

I have owned quite a few 50 Watters over the years and have always liked the sound they produce. I include my now sold Nomad 45 combo (the Orange channel on it was as fat as it gets, especially for 4x EL84's).

My first ever amp was a vintage Carlsbro 50 Top head with a Vox AC30 2x12 cab. Everyone used to laugh when they saw it back in the 80s as it looked very old fashioned but they stopped laughing when I plugged in the guitar and started playing as it blew away the solid state combos my friends were using at the time. Ah nostalgia, it gets better with age, lol.

 

[OldTelecasterMan]

Played the TC-50. Very nice sound. It is a very straight forward amp. It was very predictable and easy to to fiddle with tone wise. A BIG ZERO learning curve for getting what ever tone you are looking to get. The 50 watts concerns me but it's not a deal breaker. I do wish it was 100watts.

 

[bandit2013]

+1