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Chrissmoth

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I've been fiddling about with an MXR Dyna comp which does give some nice fat lead focus - but I'm pretty sure I'm not gonna keep it.

Does anyone have any suggestions for it's use - ie where abouts to place it - in front of the amp? - in the loop?

Maybe I'm just using it wrong but it strikes me that one of the reasons for having a valve amp is the responsiveness to pick attack.

If you have an effect that 'smoothes' out the distinction between quiet & aggressive pick technique then aren't we just losing this responsiveness?

Thoughts?
 
Compressors need to be early in your chain before any gain pedals but usually after anything like a wah. Not in the loop.

They are great for giving that nice squishy country twang on lead playing or that tight pillowy funk chording sound.
 
Well, that's the definition of a compressor. It compresses the dynamic range of your playing, but gives you more consistency, and of course, sustain. It's definitely a trade-off.
 
I am in the market for a compressor- and of the models I have tried I think I am leaning toward a T-Rex Comp Nova for my board. Anyone else have any Comp Nova experiences to share? I would like to try a Barber Tone Press, but I am afraid it would require a "blind" purchase. If you play one of these- give a brief review....


Thanks-

Laskyman
 
cut and paste from earlier time:

i had a dynacomp for 10 years.

then i tried a barber tone press, and was absolutely sold.

i a/b'd it against a Keeley compressor.

here's my review:



got to a-b a Keeley compressor against a Barber tone press

:D
both of these, are guitar player magazine editor's choice award winners.

my luthier, bought a keeley comp.

i bought a Barber tone press.

we got together last night and a/b'd the two-- same rig, same guitar, same settings, etc.

gotta say, they're both amazingly good sounding compressers.

both are pretty transparent.

both are dirt simple to operate.

both have true bypass. you don't hear them in line at all, when the effect is off.
all other compressors, i've ever tried, sucked tone when off.

both have led's to show when the effect is engaged.

both are made very well.

the barber is bigger, and a bit heftier, than the keeley. i like heavy, myself, but if it was an issue of fitting a smaller pedal on a pedalboard, the keeley has the upper hand.

Keeley1x.jpg

$219

the keeley, is based somewhat on the mxr dynacomp.
i had a dyncomp, til about a month ago, so i'm well versed in the feel of that classic comp.
the keeley, is more transparent, and not quite as noisy, as the original mxr dynacomp.
the keeley has more aggressive settings on the sensitivity, and gets pretty noisy when dimed (completely understandable with high settings of ANY compressor).

-but the middle settings sounds really nice, and even at really low settings, you can get very transparent compressor settings. Still, you can hear a certain amount of 'pop' at the harder pick attacks, and this is very much in line with the classic dynacomp sound....and it still sounds 'squished' to my ears...... it's more obvious that this effect is on, even on mild settings, than what is achievable with the tone press.

it has an 'attack' control, inside the box, that can be tweaked to a degree, but is somewhat a nuisance to get to and mess with...
we left this set on the factory setting for this test.

the barber Tone Press, can do this same sound, but has a completely other side as well....

it can do "Parallel compression".
and it works.

website defines it best:
Barber developed a one-of-a-kind and quite proprietary continuous “blend control” circuit and combined it with a discrete “Class A” FET mixer circuit to allow you to continuously blend the natural signal of your carefully selected guitar with a “phase-corrected” classic compression circuit.

basically, i can dial in the amount of compression (sustain) i want, then take the blend knob and dial in the straight, dry unaffected guitar signal along with the compressed signal.
this allows me to set the compressor so i get exactly the amount of 'attack' i want, and it comes through without being squished.

when i first plugged it in, it almost seemed like the compressor was not doing anything...
because you hear all of your original attack, and with typical compressors, you hear the compressor working on the signal right away. i had to leave that session, come back later with a different mindset, before i really became aware of how this thing really works.

--with the tone press, it's very subtle how it's working, and doesn't mess with the basic tone and dynamics as much, based on how you set the blend control. but you still get all the compression you want, it's just way more dynamic.

it seems to enhance the tone as well, meaning, it doesn't 'take away' any of the treble or bass response. you can turn the blend all the way to the right, and get the 'dynacomp' sound if you want it.

but i'm finding, the unique sound of this compressor has allowed me to dial in a much more natural sounding effect.

it sounds perfect for strats.

i back it down a bit for humbuckers....... which is as easy as just dialing the 'blend' knob back a notch or two.....

a side benefit of this pedal...
you can use it as a class A 'clean boost'.......... with 8 db of boost, and the blend all the way to the left.

there is a 'color' trim pot inside the box. you can tweak this to give a more round vintage sound. i like it in the factory 'full on' setting.

Tone_Press_front.jpg

$139.95

for the price, i think it's a no brainer.

YMMV
 
cut and paste from earlier time

That is a real intriguing review...I see a few guys around with the Keeleys- and they sound very good- but the T-Rex sounds real good (not that *it* really has a sound....)but now I know I gotta try to check out a Barber...
Thanks-


Laskyman
 
the Tone Press review above is spot on. I didn't like the "overly" compressed sound I got from other compressors and read all of the reviews on Tone Press (harmony-central). One of the few times where people's reviews actually mirror my experience. I bought it blind which i have never done before, but the thing wasn't easy to find. Awesome pedal - doesn't mess with the tone but really rounds out the rough edges and gives a good deal of sustain. It's an "always on" pedal for me now because it actually improved my tone, not just changed it.
 
+1 on the Barber.

Bought it in January and now I don't leave home without it. Stated above in brief but worth emphasizing, the Barber does the classic compressor sound with the blend pot anywhere from about 1 o'clock to 5 o'clock (max). Chicken pickin' for days...

With the blend pot at noon you get great sustain and your guitar sound stays intact. In my experience, other compressors don't do this as well, if at all.
 
romk said:
I considered my Boss CS-3 a main pedal which was always engaged in times I had no Boogie. But as I got my Boogie amp I found it not that necessary. Later with acquisition of TriAxis I found the compressor useless. Lately I was seducted to get R.Keeley compressor. What can I say? It is a good one. Maybe the best pedal of the kind on the market. But trying it out I have come to the same old conclusion - I do not need no compressor as far as my Boogie stuff does that job the best way.

I hear ya! I used one from 1990 to 1996 in a country band for that chicken pickin'. But I haven't played that kind of music since 1996...so I have been happy without one for 12 years. I appreciate your post. I am back on track. NO compressor purchase for me now. Besides, I hate takin' time to plug stuff in.
 

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