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pilgrimx

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I'm playing Seymour Duncan Antiquity humbuckers in an LP primarily, but I'm considering something different. I play music that goes from tighter driven rock to a more classic vibe, and everything in between. I don't really play metal, but I love tight, punchy gain when its time to get dirty. :evil: I pretty much stay in the bridge position, so I would like to find a pup that can do a good clean as well a good dirty.
The Antiquity's sound pretty nice, but the highs are a little too much at times, and I just feel like there's a better match for this amp. Any suggestions?
 
I´m sure you will be in the right way with a seymour duncan..I have a DiMarzio Steve Special in bridge and its a hot pup..sounds really heavy but you cant hear the screaming tubes, a low output humbucker will give you what you want, and try to look one made with alnico, not with ceramic
 
what style LP? do you know what value your pots are?these days, there are many(can there be too many) real good after market pups out there..likewise, there are many "tried and true" old standards that can be had for $$ less....do a search for pickups and I bet it will take an hour or two to take it all in...I have a few LP'S and a few yrs worth of pup chasing..I will be glad to help 8)
 
pilgrimx said:
The Antiquity's sound pretty nice, but the highs are a little too much at times, and I just feel like there's a better match for this amp. Any suggestions?

Turn the tone pot down to 7 or 8 (or lower if you care to).

I use PAF style humbuckers for everything from thrash to doom metal. I prefer them because I think they sound better than most high output pickups. Low output into high gain lets the amp do all the heavy lifting rather than mushing up the front end. The catch is that they're generally bright in the bridge, but for some reason guitar makers seen fit to include a knob that turns the brightness down...
 
ha...true, sdaisy..use those knobs....BUT I have a Custom that is a bright *** hell beeotch=I have some higher output bare Knucks that have a dark/warm quality in conj. with 500k pots-it warmed her up, as opposed to the lower outputs I tried-I lowered the pot value to compensate, but it was too vintage and mushy at that point for me-the ones I have seem to hit a balance with this particular piece of wood
 
Everyone here is pretty much on the money . Low output is the way to go . Stay away from the high output pups .
 
pilgrimx said:
The Antiquity's sound pretty nice, but the highs are a little too much at times, and I just feel like there's a better match for this amp. Any suggestions?

There's really no single "correct" answer. It comes down to personal taste. One size does not fit all. Different people are looking for different things. What suits me might not suit you etc. etc. And in the end, your pickup is only a very minor detail of the big picture. You can expect something better when you change the pickups but don't expect miracles.

There have already been some very good suggestions here. Since you're looking for an all-around pickup rather than a specialized pickup (like a high-output shred pickup), it would be safest to start with fairly conventional PAF variations. Most traditional Gibson Les Pauls aren't particularly bright sounding by design (mahogany body with either maple or mahogany top), but el-cheapo manufacturers like Epiphone tend to use brighter sounding species of mahogany or even alder instead of mahogany. So you might try a slightly brighter pickup with a Gibson than with an Epiphone or the various other Korean/Chinese/whatever Gibson knock-offs.

High-gain or low-gain pickup? In your case, I would go for a low to medium gain pickup. As pointed out by others, you can always boost the input signal if you need more gain - but it is harder to get good clean or semi-clean tones if your input signal is too congested already because of high-gain pickups. Besides, good OD/amp gain stage boost (with low/medium-gain pickups) can often produce ballsier distortion sound than many high-gain pickups do. The only slight problem with this scenario is that when your boost is later along the signal path, you'll also be boosting all kinds of hiss and noise that could be traveling along your guitar cord or wireless system. Ideally, you want to pick up as much clear-n-loud signal with your pickup as possible.

That said, I should point out that I have installed fairly hot bridge pickups in my both main guitars (a BKP A5 Warpig in a Gibson SG and a BKP Crawler in a Gibson LP Standard) and have not experienced any of the problems usually associated with high-gain pickups. Even though I normally utilize the neck pickups for clean sounds, I can get great clean tones from the bridge Warpig alone. It's fairly hot (measured DC resistance 21.5k) but the clean sound is very full and does not sacrifice any top-end detail or shimmer or overdrive the input stage. It actually sounds better clean than many low-gain bridge pickups I have tried (they sounded too shrill in the bridge position). And when I use channels 2 and 3 on my Mark V, the Warpig absolutely slays. Nobody's ever complained that it didn't sound ballsy enough... :twisted: But it is worth noting that the BKP products are considered quality, 'boutique' pickups, they are not your typical factory-produced mass-market pickups. Don't expect similar results with just about any high-gain pickup you might come across. Even these pickups might not sound good in every guitar.

My intuition tells me that if you wanted to try a Bare Knuckle Pickups product, the almighty Mule (a PAF replica but much, much better) would be all you need. But if you are willing to invest in a boutique product, you'd really be better off emailing their tech support, describing your gear and needs, and listening to what they recommend: [email protected]

Also, you you said you didn't like the excessive highs on the Antiquities. Have you tried EL34s in your MkV yet? I was having some trouble with rather unpleasant ear-piercing highs with 6L6s (with some channel 1 and channel 3 settings) but the SED =C= EL34s rounded the top end nicely. Now I can actually use the Presence and Treble controls on Channels 1 and 3.
 
I actually love my Bare Knuckle Nailbombs. They are considered higher output at 16k resistance (for the bridge) but the neck is 11k and I'm actually really happy with them. They can get some awesome brutal tones and keep the clarity, and I can also get some sweet blues and clean tones. Sometimes I feel it gets a little too bright but simply just turning the tone pot down a little fixes that problem, although I play with the tone at max most of the time. Lower output is the way to go though, like everyone else says.
 
Tom Anderson pickups
http://www.andersonguitars.com/customcontent/pickups_0609.pdf
 
RocknRory said:
I actually love my Bare Knuckle Nailbombs. They are considered higher output at 16k resistance (for the bridge) but the neck is 11k and I'm actually really happy with them. They can get some awesome brutal tones and keep the clarity, and I can also get some sweet blues and clean tones. Sometimes I feel it gets a little too bright but simply just turning the tone pot down a little fixes that problem, although I play with the tone at max most of the time. Lower output is the way to go though, like everyone else says.
it was the Nailbomb that helped warm my LP up, as opposed to the vintage Mule (A IV mag)
..magnets and the wire used effect the tone as well/more to it than "output"
agree with LP 70 as well(no wonder...I have BK's in all of my guitars except my Tommy!)
 
I use Suhr pup's and they are pretty insane. The SSH+ has some SERIOUS bite to it, that thing screams. The DSH+ is a lot smoother sounding but still really strong.
 
lesterpaul said:
what style LP? do you know what value your pots are?these days, there are many(can there be too many) real good after market pups out there..likewise, there are many "tried and true" old standards that can be had for $$ less....do a search for pickups and I bet it will take an hour or two to take it all in...I have a few LP'S and a few yrs worth of pup chasing..I will be glad to help 8)

500k in neck and bridge. Its funny, the neck is murky, like the amp is covered with a comforter--and its like that in every amp. The bridge is nice and creamy, but it has Alnico 2 mags and a little less snappy than other A5's I've played. I think I'd like just a little "more". I had--and still own--a Dimarzio 36th Anniversary PAF, but it was pulled before the Mark V came to town. The Antiquity pups are considered some of SD's best. I don't want to go backwards and end up with an inferior pickup. God knows it wouldn't be the first time...
 
pilgrimx said:
lesterpaul said:
what style LP? do you know what value your pots are?these days, there are many(can there be too many) real good after market pups out there..likewise, there are many "tried and true" old standards that can be had for $$ less....do a search for pickups and I bet it will take an hour or two to take it all in...I have a few LP'S and a few yrs worth of pup chasing..I will be glad to help 8)

500k in neck and bridge. Its funny, the neck is murky, like the amp is covered with a comforter--and its like that in every amp. The bridge is nice and creamy, but it has Alnico 2 mags and a little less snappy than other A5's I've played. I think I'd like just a little "more". I had--and still own--a Dimarzio 36th Anniversary PAF, but it was pulled before the Mark V came to town. The Antiquity pups are considered some of SD's best. I don't want to go backwards and end up with an inferior pickup. God knows it wouldn't be the first time...
try swapping the A2 with a A5 magnet..... you may like your pickup with a A5 :wink:

good luck
 
I have the Dimarzio Liquifire/Crunchlab set and absolutely love the way they sound with my Mark V. I also have EL34's which, in my opinion, help the tone overall on every mode of this amp.
 
pilgrimx said:
I'm playing Seymour Duncan Antiquity humbuckers in an LP primarily, but I'm considering something different. I play music that goes from tighter driven rock to a more classic vibe, and everything in between. I don't really play metal, but I love tight, punchy gain when its time to get dirty. :evil: I pretty much stay in the bridge position, so I would like to find a pup that can do a good clean as well a good dirty.
The Antiquity's sound pretty nice, but the highs are a little too much at times, and I just feel like there's a better match for this amp. Any suggestions?


I have a roadster head and I prefer EMGs to reduce noise. I also use noise gate to counter the rest of the noise problems.
 
pilgrimx said:
I had--and still own--a Dimarzio 36th Anniversary PAF, but it was pulled before the Mark V came to town. The Antiquity pups are considered some of SD's best. I don't want to go backwards and end up with an inferior pickup. God knows it wouldn't be the first time...

Rule of thumb #1: Use what works for you.
Who cares whether it is a cheap pickup or a top-of-the-line boutique pickup? Scr*w that! Lots of great music has been played and recorded on very modest and mediocre gear.

That said, there's no reason to give up yet or "downgrade" to less prestigious pickups. If you are ready to whip out the cash, there's a lot of boutique pickup manufacturers out there whose pickups are easily at least as high quality as your Antiquities. You are pretty much guaranteed to find the perfect pickup for you somewhere.

Bare Knuckle Pickups is the company that gets regularly recommended (by me, and apparently by other posters too), and for a reason. Not only their handwound pickups sound great but they are also very knowledgeable and helpful. If you send their tech support a description of your gear and your needs, they'll recommend a pickup that will meet your expectations, and then some!

And they are not the only high-quality boutique pickup company out there.
 
I've got a Seymour Jazz in the neck, which is easily the best neck pickup around. And a Seymour Custom in the bridge, which a hot rodded PAF. It's hot but not too hot.
 
theroan said:
I've got a Seymour Jazz in the neck, which is easily the best neck pickup around

The best pickup for playing what?? I have an Air Norton in the neck and its great but its too hot for playing a non metal style, I mean, you can play other genres but a HSS would kick it right in the butt :lol:
 
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