anyone have playtime experience with BOTH the ROV and TOV?

[ChrisRocksUSA]

I happen to find the clean tone on my ROV to be pretty sexy.

I'm 100% happy with it, but would I've got my eye out for a TOV b/c I would like the option to use the tube rectifier for that saggier sound. Do these amps have the same clean?

I used to have a 3ch dual (not reborn) and disliked the clean on it, so I don't want to lose the clean this bad boy has.

 

[jazzblaster]

http://www.grailtone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=42170

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=664123

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?1662275-Rectoverb-vs.-Tremoverb

hope it helps.

 

[ChrisRocksUSA]

that helped a bit, except for the TGP thread.

I do not find the cleans on the ROV to be AT ALL like dual rec cleans. I've owned both and didn't care for the DR cleans, but love them on my ROV.

 

[94Tremoverb]

I would still say the Rectoverb cleans and the 3-Ch DR cleans are much more like each other than either of them are like the Tremoverb or 2-Ch DR cleans. Basically, the 2-Ch and Tremoverb don't have a 'clean channel', they have a gain-reduced mode on the same high-gain channel that provides all the other modes. It's the same audio path. The ROV (and 3-Ch DR) has a much cleaner, glassier clean channel that uses a separate path with fewer tube stages. A friend of mine owns a ROV and loves it; it's his favourite amp. Before that he had a Tremoverb and couldn't get on with the clean - found it too dark and dirty... I'm the other way round, the Tremoverb is my perfect amp, but I find his ROV too clean and glassy. Very different.

If you're looking for sag, it should be possibly to mod the ROV. It really surprises me that Mesa never did this, given how much of the signature Dual Rec tone is down to the power supply. Adding a resistor (with bypass switch, if you want to keep both options) after the rectifier will give you most of the effects of a tube rectifier, if not an exact clone of it. I'm not 100% sure of the value but 50-ohm, 25W should be in the ball park... this will be a chassis-mounted power resistor.