2:100 & Recto Pre Tone I am after

[MRX2099]

Ok I have the two items plus a G-major, BBE 482i Sonic Maximizer, I have a TS-9 modded to 808 specs in front of the amp,
cabinet is a Marshall 1960A with 4 Celestion G12-T 75s going into the two 8ohm inputs stereo of 300 watts of power from the cab,
My guitar is a strat with YJM and HS-3 stacked humbuckers, scalloped neck, large frets, (malmsteen clone guitar)
This is the tone I am after very heavy low bottom end sound
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h08W7mWXWqU

BTW I am using "modern mode" on the recto pre with the cable to the 2:100 modern

what setting ( bass, treble, presence, liveout, etc, on the Pre and power amp,
should I turn the gain & master way up on the Recto Pre, with the poweramp setting kinda down, just in my house to keep from getting the cops called, or turn up the poweramp level,presence and the preamp setting down, which way to get a good "bedroom" tone heavy without being way way loud for now but still get a good tone...

also to go from the recto pre recording out into my PC soundcard (I have a SB audigy with mic pre input) can I have the live outs into the amp and the recording out into the PC at the same time or only one at a time?

TKS

 

[MRX2099]

Also I notice when I switch from CH2 back to CH 1 I have to turn up the Ch1 master, or live outs way up more just to hear it, should it be like that,
I tried running the REC PRE outs into just the "normal" 2:100 inputs instead of the "REC PRE" inputs on the 2:100 and still the same, volume is way low when I go back to CH1.

I just can't find the heavy tone, using modern mode, then I tried not using modern mode cable, REC PRE inputs, and then just normal inputs, either way I have to turn way up, I am running the G-major between the pre and power amp instead of the FX loop with the BBE last in the chain before going into the poweramp, I have a TS-9 (modded to 808 specs) before the amp, it just makes it fizzy/buzzy sounding, even with the treble, bass, mids, and presence way down. Should I have gotten a 2:90 instead of the 2:100 for lower volumes with better tone?
I like this tone here also lots of delay and nice lead tone, I know this is not way up volume and he is using a 295 Poweramp and a JMP1 with a intellifex, Marcel's tone is awesome ,
I want that tone, can it be achieved with the REC PRE and 2:100 with a g-major??? if not out something goes for something else
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s9U1C4Wgz4


Do you think maybe the POWER tubes are getting weak, ( i know the Preamp tubes are good its like a brand new unit) I hate to have to buy 8 of these just to "try" and see if it makes any difference

Also on the footswitch on the Rec Pre is there just agreen light on when you are on CH1, no red light when you are on CH2? like on the REC PRE

 

[CoG]

My experience, I have not used a 2:100 with my Rec Pre a lot, just tried it twice.

I find CH2 (the "red" channel) to be quieter than CH1 (the "green" channel) on both the REC and LIVE outs. Yours is the opposite... it probably depends on the preamp settings, but no, the channels are not balanced to have the same output.

Yes, on my footswitch CH1 is green and CH2 has no light. In order to have a light for both channels they would have had to put a battery in the footswitch.

If you read the manual it will explain that you *can* have both the live and recording outs working at the same time but it probably won't sound very good.

The 2:100 is designed to be a very, very loud power amp that runs a big pro rack rig. It really is not a good choice for playing at home or even most rehearsal spaces.

Try this:

Get rid of the BBE. and don't hook up the power amp. Run your boost into the Rec Pre however you like it. CH2, Modern, Gain at 1200-1300, Treble at 1300, Mid at 1200, Bass at 0930, Presence at 1100, Master at 1200. Run the REC OUT into the G Major. No FX in the G Major at all except for EQ, apply a "scoop" type EQ. Run the G Major's output into your soundcard and a software cabinet simulator on your computer.

See if you like how that sounds as a heavy rhythm sound.

The Rec Pre is like any Rectifier, it is supposed to be played loud overall with no one gain stage (gain, master, output, or power amp) cranked up really high. If you turn the Gain way up you can get a very "smooth" sound for soloing but it will also be very "loose."

For live use I have tried three different power amps (20/20, 2:100, and the power section of a Mark III) with my Rec Pre and you can only get a really crushing heavy rhythm sound by turning up LOUD (and the 20/20 couldn't do it at all.) This is no different than the other Rectifiers I have played (Roadster and 2ch DR).

 

[camsna]

Chuck. The. BBE!

 

[MRX2099]

TKS will give those things a try? what about a 2:90 or even a 295 with the Rec Pre still have to turn up real loud to get a good chunky tone?


TKS everyone

 

[again with this]

to the OP......

I agree, loose the BBE.

I use a GMajor in my FX loop of the Recto Pre and the "non recto" outs to the 2:100. the Gmajor controls my channel switching.

Modern mode. No boost. Light noise gate.

gain about 2 o'clock
trebble 2
mids 2
bass noon
presence 10:30ish
master 9:30
output 9

both sides of power amp both dials at noon.

Hope this helps.

 

[myqqy]

My 2:100 is still new to me, and i haven't had a great amount of time to mess with tone adjustments- so i can't add much to the op's question about findinig the right tone. What i like to do is go into my rectifier rec preamp, and have one out going direct into my rackmount mixer for a dry signal, and the other out going into my eventide. The stereo outs from the eventide go into the mixer, and then i can blend the levels of dry and wet signal- i think the vintage setting on channel 2 is wonderful for chunky rhythms with the gain setting around 10 o'clock.
I've been using a bbe 482i in my rack as well, and am wondering why others feel so strongly about not having them- is it just a question of keeping the signal path more direct, or is it something else?