Would a 2b faceplate devalue an original 2c+?
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zodiac272
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That will depend on who is buying. If you find someone that just wants a DRG to play then you will be fine. A collector on the other hand won't want to pay top dollar. Either way, the value added will be greater than any loss. Is there no way to cut slots into the IIC+ faceplate? Or would you not even want to try
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SonicProvocateur
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You should get Mesa to dymo label it with the Petrucci labels "Temp of Sun", "# of Kills", etc :lol: I would buy that IIC+
>Photi G<
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Don't forget the all important "Pull My Finger" above the Bass knob. :lol:
bigmouth
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zodiac272 said:
sorry, but would totally disagree with "either way, the value added will be greater than any loss" assuming its now an original DR ? but yes, a collector sure won't want to pay top dollar for that end result ... can you foresee the sales ad ? this started life as an original MKIIC+ DR, but then I wanted to have a G in there, so I had MB do the mods and then they put a MKIIB faceplate on it, because they didn't have original ones anymore ? a collector won't touch that thing with sticks (-> top dollar) and a player still will go for a MKIII with IIC+ mods or an upgraded IIB. use the HG faceplate to cover up ? and the HG gets what ??? guys, we're talking 25 plus years old vintage gear ... why not just leave it as is ? if its not what you like it to be, sell it as long as its all original and buy what you want, while you still get the most money for it ... everything else is burning money and reducing the amount of original, unmolested MKIIC+s ... :evil:
zodiac272
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bigmouth said:
Yeah, you are right to a degree IMO... SonicProvocateur said he would buy it, I'm sure others would as well. Of course it would take a hit compared to the factory DRG, but I'm sure it would sell. I do agree with you about selling this model to get the model you want. Just saw a DR sell for $2300 so he could make some $$ on this one. While I don't want to reduce the amount of original unmolested IIC+, it is his amp to do with what he wants. Like you said,(if it was mine) if I even thought I would sell, I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't buy it other than use it for a while then flip it for some $$. The few C+'s that I own, I sent them to mike to get restored to factory specs rather than get any mods (except "+" mod on 2 of them). I do believe in preserving them, and I take great care of my gear, but now that my own body isn't perfect anymore, I won't get upset if someone wants to modify their own gear. About swapping faceplates, my suggestion was to take his good IIC+ faceplate with EQ and put it on the IIC+ he want's to sell, rather than sell a IIC+ with a IIB faceplate that says "pull my finger" above the bass pot. Is that so egregious? I guess by your reaction, they really need to hack the amp up to insert the GEQ. I guess I'm flip flopping a bit, But yeah, I would agree, If he wants to sell, then sell it as is. If he wants it forever, then that's a better situation to add GEQ. In the end, it's still his to do with as he pleases.
scott
I think it would have an effect on resale, yes. For the price you would pay to have it installed you would be better off putting an EQ in the loop. It will get you close enough to
what your main objective is. I actually like the non EQ better and that goes for the 60w the 60/100 or the Simul-Class. That's my opinion of course.
If your just wanting more bass and to cut the mids then the EQ in the loop will do that. I vote for leave it alone. You'll be money ahead on many levels.
what your main objective is. I actually like the non EQ better and that goes for the 60w the 60/100 or the Simul-Class. That's my opinion of course.
If your just wanting more bass and to cut the mids then the EQ in the loop will do that. I vote for leave it alone. You'll be money ahead on many levels.
interesting set of opinions... Thanks guys. consensus seems like it would probably be more detrimental than I thought. I'm a player rather than a collector, and not sure I'd ever be selling this amp, plus I paid a very reasonable price, so either way I don't think I'd be in a position to lose money, even if I were to sell.
as a player, assuming the added EQ uses parts like the original EQ, to me the end result is the same as a factory DRG, but with an incorrect faceplate, but I can see how others (particularly collectors) would see it much differently.
One nice thing about going with an EQ pedal in the loop is that it's out of the circuit when not in use, thus eliminating the infamous "tone sucking" :lol:
This has been done to other amps, using MkIII faceplates, when they had them. Never seen one of those sell... Wonder how they'd do?
as a player, assuming the added EQ uses parts like the original EQ, to me the end result is the same as a factory DRG, but with an incorrect faceplate, but I can see how others (particularly collectors) would see it much differently.
One nice thing about going with an EQ pedal in the loop is that it's out of the circuit when not in use, thus eliminating the infamous "tone sucking" :lol:
This has been done to other amps, using MkIII faceplates, when they had them. Never seen one of those sell... Wonder how they'd do?
tony777
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Do the GEQ upgrade. If you are a player you will never sell that amp anyway. :lol:
Yeah, I decided it was worth it to me. It's in transit from Mesa... I should have it by Wednesday... can't wait! I'll post some feedback after I mess with it for a day or two. BTW, I had them double box it (I didn't specifically reference your issue, just told them with all the expense/time I'd invested, I didn't want any chance of shipping damage... thanks again for the heads up!). 8)
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