Which speakers do you prefer with your Recto?

[Anonymous]

I thought the V30s were it for me. They sound great, feel good, and don't mush out with the correct settings. Well, I did something recently with my Triple that I think has changed my perspective quite a bit....

I played through a Greenback stack! Not only was the sound better, the lower sensitivity made my tone better at the same volume! All in all it was an incredible experience that I suggest everyone try at least once! The Greenbacks are all I plan on using, and this is after owning 12 V30s, G12H-30s, G12T-75s, G12K-100s, etc.

Anyway, I'm curious to know what other people are using and enjoy playing through -

 

[KH Guitar Freak]

I personally don't like them Greenbacks. Distorts too early, and turns my tone into mush at high volumes. I like the V30s the most. Those Celestion H30s are pretty good too. Worst one I've tried is the GT12-75. Horrible...

 

[YellowJacket]

I like a combo of V30s and G12m Greenbacks. I also like the G12H Greenbacks as well. Just a caution with the Marshall 1960ax or 1960ac, the cab only handles 100watts so you're liable to blow the speakers with a triple unless you run two cabs.

 

[Nitrobattery]

I'm definitely a V30's fan

 

[Jmcthe3rd]

In my 4 X 12 I run a V30(top left) a 75T(top right) a Gk100 (Bottom Left) and V30(Bottom right). For some reason this produces the best spectrum of high's, low's and mids. I also run Weber Beam Blockers which really give the cab a more natural studio 3-d type sound.

 

[Cleekster]

C-90's ALL THE WAY!!! they give me a really tight articulate sound with more mids :mrgreen: and none of that v30 harshness....AND they make my 10yr old modeling amp alot moer "tube-like".

a recto and 75's are a disaster in the making.

 

[R_ADKINS80]

I dunno....I for one and a big fan of the 12T-75's. I don't run my bass past 1:30 for the most part and my mids are just under noon with my presence around 1-2:00. i find that it gives me a good chunky tone that is very heavy and works well with the band I'm in.

My top cab is angled with the 12T-75's in an x-pattern with Eminence Legends. My bottom cab is a straight front ported cab with 2 12T-75's on top with an Eminence legend 15 on the bottom. That rig live is the second coming of christ.

 

[Anonymous]

a recto and 75's are a disaster in the making.

Ha! Yes, this is the truth. Tried the 75s mixed with V30s and couldn't stand it. Far too much bite. I think if you were going to run the 75s with a Recto, you'd need to install a bias mod to really get the power tubes working, and it would most likely work better with EL34s.

As for the issue of power and Greenbacks, if you're running a stack, they actually hold up quite well - similar to a V30 half stack at 240 watts. With my Bogner or Marshall, since they don't have the thundering low end of the Recto, a Greenback half stack does very well! Probably has a lot to do with my settings on the Recto though. I run the Treble at 2:00, Mids at 3:00, and Bass at 12:00. Presence off.

Anyway, at some point I'd like to get some clips going. It would be interesting to see if this new combination records as well as the V30s do....

 

[tennisplayer]

Didn't like the V30, harsh and piercing. Now using greenbacks. Any experience with Cannabis Rex?

 

[Benraldo]

I've been using a combo of eminence swamp thangs and tonkers with great results. Tight metal sound. Did not like v30's at all.

 

[fluff191]

I def. love V30's, but dont really care for the honky mid spike they can have. Thinking of putting WGS Veteran 30's in my Peavey cab to see what happens. Anyone try these speakers?

 

[strata189]

New to the board and to Mesa. Rev F owner here, and I'm using Swamp Thangs and 12H65s in my cab. Normally, just the STs and letting the others act as passive radiators.
Huge sound. :mrgreen:

Randall

 

[thejay]

I like the V30s

 

[siggy14]

That is kinda odd considering the C90's are much more like the 75's, both are mid cut speakers so it also confuses me when you said more mids with the c90 cab over a V30 cab :?: The V30 cab has way more mid's then the C90 cab, I think the C90's are great speakers for mid heavy amps actually like the stiletto and the Mark Series.

C-90's ALL THE WAY!!! they give me a really tight articulate sound with more mids :mrgreen: and none of that v30 harshness....AND they make my 10yr old modeling amp alot moer "tube-like".

a recto and 75's are a disaster in the making.

 

[Cleekster]

That is kinda odd considering the C90's are much more like the 75's, both are mid cut speakers so it also confuses me when you said more mids with the c90 cab over a V30 cab :?: The V30 cab has way more mid's then the C90 cab, I think the C90's are great speakers for mid heavy amps actually like the stiletto and the Mark Series.

C-90's ALL THE WAY!!! they give me a really tight articulate sound with more mids :mrgreen: and none of that v30 harshness....AND they make my 10yr old modeling amp alot moer "tube-like".

a recto and 75's are a disaster in the making.

the C90's mid-peak is lower than the V30 and not as in-your-face giving a much smoother sound.

it's not that the c90 is a middy speaker like the V30....but compared to the 75 it IS midrangey IMHO. a c90 actually reminds me of a Classic lead 80 but with deeper lows and a bit more highs.

 

[Anonymous]

That is kinda odd considering the C90's are much more like the 75's, both are mid cut speakers so it also confuses me when you said more mids with the c90 cab over a V30 cab :?: The V30 cab has way more mid's then the C90 cab, I think the C90's are great speakers for mid heavy amps actually like the stiletto and the Mark Series.

C-90's ALL THE WAY!!! they give me a really tight articulate sound with more mids :mrgreen: and none of that v30 harshness....AND they make my 10yr old modeling amp alot moer "tube-like".

a recto and 75's are a disaster in the making.

the C90's mid-peak is lower than the V30 and not as in-your-face giving a much smoother sound.

it's not that the c90 is a middy speaker like the V30....but compared to the 75 it IS midrangey IMHO. a c90 actually reminds me of a Classic lead 80 but with deeper lows and a bit more highs.

Funny you should say that! I've heard a few times that the C90s actually are CL80s that have been changed a little by Mesa. Go figure -

 

[Metaltastic]

All the clips I've heard of C90s do indeed sound like they're quite a bit more scooped than V30s, but IMO the downside of that is everything that goes through them sounds like it was recorded in San Francisco, circa 1985 - I guess some people dig this, but I personally do not, I much prefer the fullness of today's tones than the weird, thin, scooped tone of old-school thrash, which the C90s really seemed to bring. Here's a clip made (not by me) with a 3 ch. Dual Rec through a 4x12 with MC90s

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/451140/OTW_test7.mp3

And I'm not a fan of T75's either most of the time - but for those who don't know, Nevermore's "Dead Heart in a Dead World" is a 2 ch. Dual Rec through a 1960B cab with T75's, so they can be made to sound pretty beastly! (but that tone, I dunno - it just has a character I'm not a huge fan of, maybe in how scooped it seems, compared to "This Godless Endeavor", which was a Dual Rec and Krank Rev through a Recto cab w/ V30s, even if that tone has so much fizz).

And yeah, I had a CL80 for a little while in the bottom of my 2x12 (V30 on top), but sold it because recorded it sounded very similar to the clips I had heard of the C90.

 

[Metaltastic]

Oh yeah, and Jens Bogren used Dual Rec through a Marshall MF400 cab w/ G12K100's for the rhythm tone on Opeth's Ghost Reveries, which I've always loved (so crunchy), so I really wanna get a K100 to try in my Recto cab.

And I've never played through a cab with Greenbacks, so I'm quite curious to!

 

[YellowJacket]

Ya, the greenbacks are interesting speakers. It should be mentioned that both the G12m and G12H are considered greenbacks because that was just a slang name for the green magnet cover. The speaker most people are referring to are usually the G12m 25 or G12m heritage (20watt) when they talk about greenbacks but the G12H 30 or G12H Heritage are very similar sounding speakers, just with a better bass response and higher efficiency.

The sound is very different with greenbacks than a CL80 or V30 because they have a lot more speaker breakup. It is really a question of taste whether you like it or not. The positive is that the tone sounds way better at lower volumes than a v30, but the speaker is very loose and distorts like crazy at high volumes. The low end tends to be farty but aside from that, the overall tone is very creamy with a nice midrange crunch. (Great compliment to el-34s) The farty low end is probably less of a problem with a fullstack (or a marshall) but when you start getting huge volumes, it can become annoying, especially if you want a really thumpy sound. If you don't need the bass, the problem is mitigated substantially. You really have to redial your tone for the speaker, and back of the gain quite a bit because the speaker has a really thick sound. Basically, a G12T - 75 sounds like a cross between a v30 and a greenback minus the annoyingly scratchy highs you get with the G12T. Personally, I'd use a Greenback for blues, older rock, punk, or anything that doesn't require a super tight and gainy tone. I prefer using the Marshall 1960ax cab with the vintage settings on my two channel dual. I feel the cab is not suitable for modern gain tones, where I'd rather run a standard rectocab or a Marshall 1960a.

 

[Cleekster]

My experience with V30's has been with Marshall's and the like......good lead tone but rhythm sounds like crap.......

broke out my old modeling amp and put on the 2ch. ToV setting through a 2x12 matchless Cheiftain cab(V30's) and after a little tweaking got a pretty killer sound so this deserves some more thought i suppose.....tried out a dual rec w/ a4x12 cabw/v30's once and couldn't get a single decent tone out of it.......saw Stryper in '07 the singer was using a 2x12 recto cab and it had that really harsh v30 sound that could take your head off.....maybe i'm just alittle prejudice against them....i don't know.