Triaxis/G major Muting Problem

[Breenbear]

Hi guys,

Hoping someone will be able to help with this one. Been using my new rack gear for a few months now and very happy with it. However, one thing that is killing me slowly inside is the inability to fully mute my signal using my midi pedal (FCB1010). Now i'm pretty sure everything is working ok on the pedal (have re-calibrated several times and it works fine). However, when I put the pedal in its full off position I can still hear the smallest amount of signal still passing through. I dont know where its coming from because I can hear the signal fully kicking in when I raise my volume pedal slightly. It sounds like a kind of distant muted version of my normal sound. This has started to happen after using the FX Loop on the Triaxis with the G major. Could this be what is causing my problems? Any suggestions are welcome!

Cheers guys,

Breenbear :mrgreen:

 

[ando]

Hi guys,

Hoping someone will be able to help with this one. Been using my new rack gear for a few months now and very happy with it. However, one thing that is killing me slowly inside is the inability to fully mute my signal using my midi pedal (FCB1010). Now i'm pretty sure everything is working ok on the pedal (have re-calibrated several times and it works fine). However, when I put the pedal in its full off position I can still hear the smallest amount of signal still passing through. I dont know where its coming from because I can hear the signal fully kicking in when I raise my volume pedal slightly. It sounds like a kind of distant muted version of my normal sound. This has started to happen after using the FX Loop on the Triaxis with the G major. Could this be what is causing my problems? Any suggestions are welcome!

Cheers guys,

Breenbear :mrgreen:

The bleed through is coming through either the Triaxis or the G major. If you are using the Triaxis for your pedal volume and recalibrating doesn't work, try assigning the volume pedal to the G Major instead - via global output (pedal). That's how I use my overall volume and it works perfectly.

 

[Breenbear]

Hi ando, thanks for the reply!

I am using the volume pedal on the g major end and it still is giving me some bleed. How do i go about assigning the pedal to control the overall volume on the triaxis? I couldnt find any info in the manual.

Cheers,

Breenbear

 

[ando]

Hi ando, thanks for the reply!

I am using the volume pedal on the g major end and it still is giving me some bleed. How do i go about assigning the pedal to control the overall volume on the triaxis? I couldnt find any info in the manual.

Cheers,

Breenbear

One thing to try before you start MIDI programming the Triaxis (which takes some effort to grasp unless you are patient enough to read the manual carefully).

Try calibrating your pedal on the FCB a bit differently: instead of pulling the pedal right back to it's back-most position when you set your minimum value, make it so you have the pedal just a little bit on. That way, any trouble your pedal has in achieving the true zero position is made irrelevant because you have a little buffer zone.

Also, make sure you are assigning the pedal to global out and not some other parameter that is volume related.

 

[joe web]

while you are using the loop of the triaxis, it could be an internal thing within the fx-loop.
i have this problem with all my tubeamps, never had a 100% mute.
btw. i use the global in level - this way allows me to do those nice delay swells.

try to put the g-major in between the triaxis and your power amp and listen for a difference.
if there is no difference, than it´s general problem of the g-major, and not yours especially.
btw. the calibration trick is fine, did the same in the past.

 

[ando]

while you are using the loop of the triaxis, it could be an internal thing within the fx-loop.
i have this problem with all my tubeamps, never had a 100% mute.
btw. i use the global in level - this way allows me to do those nice delay swells.

try to put the g-major in between the triaxis and your power amp and listen for a difference.
if there is no difference, than it´s general problem of the g-major, and not yours especially.
btw. the calibration trick is fine, did the same in the past.

Good idea Joe, I never considered that the FX loop could have a problem because my Triaxis loop is perfectly silent. Because this is the case, I assumed the loop jacks are the switching type, which physically cut off the possibility of signal bleed (as I believe they are designed to do, because unlike most effects loops that are variable, the Triaxis is supposed to be a true all-on or all-off loop). Maybe I got lucky (or Breenbear got unlucky). I still think the calibration trick might help though.

 

[Breenbear]

Thanks for the replies guys,

I have tried the calibration trick before and again just now and both times it has made no difference. I used to run going into g major from Triaxis and it was fine then. Just ever since using the FX loop has the problem started. I guess it is just a problem with the unit itself. I would change back to using the G major seperate from the triaxis but often i run out of the record outs straight into a desk if its a show or something where there has to be a silent pit which means I have to use the FX loop. Thanks for the suggestions anyway!

Breenbear :mrgreen:

 

[ando]

Thanks for the replies guys,

I have tried the calibration trick before and again just now and both times it has made no difference. I used to run going into g major from Triaxis and it was fine then. Just ever since using the FX loop has the problem started. I guess it is just a problem with the unit itself. I would change back to using the G major seperate from the triaxis but often i run out of the record outs straight into a desk if its a show or something where there has to be a silent pit which means I have to use the FX loop. Thanks for the suggestions anyway!

Breenbear :mrgreen:

It wouldn't be difficult repair I'm sure, just a couple of switching jacks. Just to confirm what's happening, try connecting a patch cable between the send and return jacks and see if the there is any volume change compared to when it isn't plugged in. Also, with the amp on, try wiggling the patch cord plugs around to see if there is any static noise indicative of a faulty jack.

Is the problem the same on A and B returns?

Another thing you can try to confirm that it is the triaxis: just turn the G major off! If there is still some signal getting to your output then you know it's the loop getting some signal bleed.