Can someone please explain to me what a thiele cabinet is? and how is it different from a standard 1x12 extension cabinet? I've been wondering this for ages and I'm sick of being a freakin mushroom here. (always in the dark, ha ha dumb joke.....)
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MaxBoogie
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A Thiele (pronounced teel) cabinet has a closed back and instead has a port out the front of the cabinet. Regular cabinets are "open back". The advantages of the Thiele are better bass response, at the expense of overall output, where the open back designis better.
Here's Mesa's Thiele design: http://www.mesaboogie.com/Product_Info/Guitar%20Cabinets/COMPACTcabs/Thiele-1x12-LG.htm
Here's Mesa's Thiele design: http://www.mesaboogie.com/Product_Info/Guitar%20Cabinets/COMPACTcabs/Thiele-1x12-LG.htm
so a thiele cabinet will be more quiet overall than a standard open back, but the bass response will be better? so seeing as I have two 1x15 ported cabinets already, running a mark III combo with a standard extension cab vs the thiele would be the better option?
MaxBoogie
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Well, if by "more quiet" you mean it will produce a lesser SPL output than an open back cab given the same input power, then yes. If you mean if will have less distortion, then not necessarily.
If you're already running ported 15" cabinets, then I personally might lean towards an open back cab to give a slightly different sound.
If you're already running ported 15" cabinets, then I personally might lean towards an open back cab to give a slightly different sound.
I disagree with three of these points, the first being "regular cabinets are open back", not true. Regular cabs can be open back, semi-open back, or closed back, with a vast majority of guitar speaker cabs being either semi-open back or closed back. I also disagree with the "less output" part. Thiele cabs have a more focused, forward output then open back cabs, and in a small room it may 'seem' that the open back is louder but it's not, it's sound is just more diffused (front and back). This really becomes more apparent in a larger room where there is no wall behind the open back cab to reflect the sound back toward the listener. In that case the sound coming out of the back of the cab actually detracts from the overall volume of the amp. Third I disagree with the "open back design is better" statement, that is a matter of opinion. Just ask any of the folks on this forum if they prefer their MK IV's through a semi-open cab or a Thiele cab. I think most would say one of each, but if pushed to chose one, most would go for the Thiele. Personally I prefer two Thieles.MaxBoogie said:
Ok. so I didnt get the green stripe, I got a blue stripe, but whatever. I brought home my "new" mark III blue stripe 1x12, and am now running the 1x12 semi open thats a part of the combo, a 1x12 thiele, and 2 1x15 front ported cabs. all I gotta say is jesus joseph and the blessed freaking virgin. I was told the mark III was loud but christ. and the four cabs together sound ENORMOUS, like really huge. Maybe monday night I'll get some sound clips up. I've never really played a mark III before, so if anyone has some good settings they'd like to share that'd be great. I am used to seperate controls for all of the channels......
