the most brutal, heavy, tight sounding rectifier?

[powerhouse]

Hey guys,

Which model among rectifier series is the most aggressive?

Currently I have RK II head but in my opinion there's something missing in it for
aggressiveness even in Ch3 & 4 modern mode.

Actually, I used to own a dual rec. 3Ch. head and the sound of DR was way more
in front of RK in modern setting. It's like...there's a filter in front of the cabinet with RK.
In modern mode, RK sounds like smoother and has even less gain at the exact same gain&EQ
setting in DR.

Does a Triple rec. sound more aggressive than Dual / RK II?
Which rectifier model can be recommended for extreme brutal sound?
(Only among rectifier models)

 

[Triple Cheeseburger]

when you say brutal...?

sometimes if i want to be stupid with my dual i wack an old ds-1 infront of it with the gain up a bit and it chuggs like a train and i loooove it. although you would need a noise gate cause it feedbacks alot hahaha.

 

[jdurso]

Hey guys,

Which model among rectifier series is the most aggressive?

Currently I have RK II head but in my opinion there's something missing in it for
aggressiveness even in Ch3 & 4 modern mode.

Actually, I used to own a dual rec. 3Ch. head and the sound of DR was way more
in front of RK in modern setting. It's like...there's a filter in front of the cabinet with RK.
In modern mode, RK sounds like smoother and has even less gain at the exact same gain&EQ
setting in DR.

Does a Triple rec. sound more aggressive than Dual / RK II?
Which rectifier model can be recommended for extreme brutal sound?
(Only among rectifier models)

The road kings and roadsters have a smoother sound than a regular DRs. To get a RK more aggressive you may want to look into some different preamp tubes. I'm in the process of changing the preamp tubes in my Roadster to get the same aggressiveness that I used to get in my 2 channel TR. I would say if you just wnat a new amp thats tears it up, I would say look into a 2 channel Triple Recto. The TRs additional headroom really adds to getting that face peeling chug and if your looking to really go over the top, slamming the preamp with an OD will incinerate small animals.

 

[primal]

About two hours ago I was in guitar center and in there sound room they had a 3ch dual rec settup.

I went in there without changing any of the settings and just turned it on and started playing.

I was actually taken back a bit by how tight it sounded.

I have a Road King 1 and I have found it to be very tight plugged straight in compared to other dual recs I have plugged straight into, but this dual rec was insane tight.

So I looked closely at the settings and noticed something.

The channel volume was way down, say 8:00. The master was way up.

I got home today and tried the same settings on my Roadking going through a recto 2x12 cab and got the same tight chugga muted palm sound.

More and more I am notising that the channel volume should be looked at more as like a gain knob and not something you use to raise the channel volume.

I thought it sounded tight before, but just dropping the channel volume from 10:00 to 9:00 made it real tight.
So try bringing down your channel volume and raising your master volume.

Also trying raising your cabinet off the floor as well!

 

[Chris McKinley]

Running the master volume higher will push the power tubes a bit and give you more crunch and chug, so to speak, intead of just more preamp saturation. It will burn 'em out a little faster, so be prepared to pay for replacements more frequently, but for lower volume gigs it can still be worth it.

 

[siggy14]

That is why i bypass the loop completly, full blash on the master and adjust my channels by each channel volume.

About two hours ago I was in guitar center and in there sound room they had a 3ch dual rec settup.

I went in there without changing any of the settings and just turned it on and started playing.

I was actually taken back a bit by how tight it sounded.

I have a Road King 1 and I have found it to be very tight plugged straight in compared to other dual recs I have plugged straight into, but this dual rec was insane tight.

So I looked closely at the settings and noticed something.

The channel volume was way down, say 8:00. The master was way up.

I got home today and tried the same settings on my Roadking going through a recto 2x12 cab and got the same tight chugga muted palm sound.

More and more I am notising that the channel volume should be looked at more as like a gain knob and not something you use to raise the channel volume.

I thought it sounded tight before, but just dropping the channel volume from 10:00 to 9:00 made it real tight.
So try bringing down your channel volume and raising your master volume.

Also trying raising your cabinet off the floor as well!

 

[mightywarlock]

To get that Recto sounding tighter, just add an MXR EQ in the effects loop, and with very very slight "U" shape it creates a beast of an amp.

tight and crunchy, and you can increase the amount of gain from the pedal as well.

 

[powerhouse]

thanks for the adivice.

Actually, I tried the different preamp tubes but it's not working, either.
And also tried different channel volume settings in RK but still it's too mid-ranged
and warm compared to the typical Rectos.

Maybe I should get back to DR or TR again.

To be frank, I was a little bit disappointed with the RK II. It's pretty versatile,
but it's a bit far from 'aggressiveness' that I'm looking for.

 

[R_ADKINS80]

thanks for the adivice.

Actually, I tried the different preamp tubes but it's not working, either.
And also tried different channel volume settings in RK but still it's too mid-ranged
and warm compared to the typical Rectos.

Maybe I should get back to DR or TR again.

To be frank, I was a little bit disappointed with the RK II. It's pretty versatile,
but it's a bit far from 'aggressiveness' that I'm looking for.

Before you go away from such an aweseome amp I'd try a few other things first. If you are using stock Boogie Tubes then I'd switch. I had to as well to get face peeling metal out of my Triple. I would HIGHLY recomend TAD 6L6GC STR power tubes as they will smooth out the peaky mids my STR 440's had AND they have low end like no other 6L6 out there. Mesa Preamp tubes aren't the greatest either. I'd go with Electro Harmonix Preamp tubes with a Tungsol in V2 for new production tubes, otherwise go NOS per Shred's advice here on the boards.

If then you find it still isn't agressive enough then I'd run a good EQ (preferably a Furman Parametric) in the series loop and that is where the magic will really start happening.

Some form of Tubescreamer is a must as well. Gain no higher than 9:00 and level at least 3:00 if dialing in extra gain or set full on if using no extra gain. Level around 9:00-12:00 to taste.

 

[primal]

thanks for the adivice.

Actually, I tried the different preamp tubes but it's not working, either.
And also tried different channel volume settings in RK but still it's too mid-ranged
and warm compared to the typical Rectos.

Maybe I should get back to DR or TR again.

To be frank, I was a little bit disappointed with the RK II. It's pretty versatile,
but it's a bit far from 'aggressiveness' that I'm looking for.

Check out Gazpots settings in the vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7R1GXlN_X8&feature=email

He is plugged straight in. He lists his settings in the comments.

It's a Roadking 1, not 2 like yours. But I think the RK2 channels 3 and 4 are voiced the same as the RK 1.

Sounds pretty good to me!

I tried his settings and they sound great here going through a RK1 with a Recto 2x12