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I'm going to politely disagree with some of this. From a "gain" perspective, yes - a number of the newer boxes will out-smush my various IIAs, Coli IIB and IIC+. Not one of the post-MkIVs sound/feel remotely as good IME, however, at the somewhat lower gain levels I use all the time; and least of all the MkV. The VII comes closest, but still doesn't get me hot to purchase.

I've owned many examples of As, Bs and C+s, as well as (IIRC) fourteen MKIIIs (all the IIIs are long gone....) and they do vary quite a lot (though the IIIs tend to vary somewhat less). Years of use, abuse and just plain old build variability contributed to better and less-better outcomes after many decades. I kept the best-sounding examples that I found.

I've compared Mesa's latest products against all of them, and still haven't felt the need to buy anything (other than yet another King Snake).

<blockquote data-quote="Wyzard" data-source="post: 540413" data-attributes="member: 39023">I&#039;m going to politely disagree with some of this. From a &quot;gain&quot; perspective, yes - a number of the newer boxes will out-smush my various IIAs, Coli IIB and IIC+. Not one of the post-MkIVs sound/feel remotely as good IME, however, at the somewhat lower gain levels I use all the time; and least of all the MkV.&nbsp; The VII comes closest, but still doesn&#039;t get me hot to purchase. I&#039;ve owned many examples of As, Bs and C+s, as well as (IIRC) fourteen MKIIIs (all the IIIs are long gone....) and they do vary quite a lot (though the IIIs tend to vary somewhat less). Years of use, abuse and just plain old build variability contributed to better and less-better outcomes after many decades. I kept the best-sounding examples that I found. I&#039;ve compared Mesa&#039;s latest products against all of them, and still haven&#039;t felt the need to buy anything (other than yet another King Snake).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wyzard, post: 540413, member: 39023"] I'm going to politely disagree with some of this. From a "gain" perspective, yes - a number of the newer boxes will out-smush my various IIAs, Coli IIB and IIC+. Not one of the post-MkIVs sound/feel remotely as good IME, however, at the somewhat lower gain levels I use all the time; and least of all the MkV. The VII comes closest, but still doesn't get me hot to purchase. I've owned many examples of As, Bs and C+s, as well as (IIRC) fourteen MKIIIs (all the IIIs are long gone....) and they do vary quite a lot (though the IIIs tend to vary somewhat less). Years of use, abuse and just plain old build variability contributed to better and less-better outcomes after many decades. I kept the best-sounding examples that I found. I've compared Mesa's latest products against all of them, and still haven't felt the need to buy anything (other than yet another King Snake). [/QUOTE]

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