Rig advice needed!

[Monsta-Tone]

Here is my situation:

I started a band last night that will play tons of originals from Blues to Metal.
We are also planning on playing covers from Sevin Dust to Santana.


So..... I need a rig that is extremely versatile and there is no way in hell that I am buying another Roadster.

Here is what I am thinking:
Guitar into G-System
Then using the Loop functions to run 2 amps in Stereo.
For amps, I'm thinking about my trusty DC-5 and a Rectoverb or Tremoverb.

It looks very easy to do, but is it feasible? I could also just use one amp for all preamp functions and use the Slave out to feed into the Loop of the 2nd amp, but I was thinking that stereo would be great for delays.


I've had tons of rack preamps and poweramps, used tons of amps, but this seems like it might give me some great tones.
I could use the G-System to do all of my channel switching and keep clutter down to a minimum on the floor.

I also really like the idea of using 2 completely different amp types so that I get 2 completely different tones at the same time.


:lol: Am I missing something or is this a good idea, and why?

 

[madryan]

Here is my situation:

I started a band last night that will play tons of originals from Blues to Metal.
We are also planning on playing covers from Sevin Dust to Santana.


So..... I need a rig that is extremely versatile and there is no way in hell that I am buying another Roadster.

Here is what I am thinking:
Guitar into G-System
Then using the Loop functions to run 2 amps in Stereo.
For amps, I'm thinking about my trusty DC-5 and a Rectoverb or Tremoverb.

It looks very easy to do, but is it feasible? I could also just use one amp for all preamp functions and use the Slave out to feed into the Loop of the 2nd amp, but I was thinking that stereo would be great for delays.


I've had tons of rack preamps and poweramps, used tons of amps, but this seems like it might give me some great tones.
I could use the G-System to do all of my channel switching and keep clutter down to a minimum on the floor.

I also really like the idea of using 2 completely different amp types so that I get 2 completely different tones at the same time.


:lol: Am I missing something or is this a good idea, and why?

Here's my take... You say you need flexibility. IMO, running a Rectifier of any stripe with a DC in stereo isn't going to do that. I'd run both heads but have them setup with your loops so you could run either amp in mono. That way you're got something like Boogies greatest hits in one rig.

To me stereo isn't worth messing with for live work unless you're got a monster PA and someone who's a pro running your sound. It just adds too many variables.

I'd run a setup like I built for my buddy Lenny. Basically 2 amps being routed by MIDI loops so you can mix and match power/pre sections and maybe some pedals in front with your FX unit providing delay and whatnot. That way you can have your crushing rectifier riffage or the smoother tighter DC sounds. You'll have the great DC clean channel etc. If you use something like Ted Weber's head switcher you could get away with one speaker cab. Less to move, less room needed on stage, etc. I've played places where I had to stack my gear up in a 2' by 3' area. There's no way you'd get a stereo rig into that small of a footprint. IMO, I'd build the two heads into a case with a rack that's big enough and set a nice ported cab on top and you'd have everything self contained and your speakers would be up where you could hear yourself.

 

[Monsta-Tone]

I see what you're saying, but I forgot to mention that I was thinking of spatial separation too.
I want to put the Rectoverb Combo that I got this morning (for $700 ) behind me and the DC by the Bass player on the other side.

We just have 1 guitar player, so I was thinking of making it sound as big as possible.
Like everything else, it sounds good in theory!

 

[madryan]

I see what you're saying, but I forgot to mention that I was thinking of spatial separation too.
I want to put the Rectoverb Combo that I got this morning (for $700 ) behind me and the DC by the Bass player on the other side.

We just have 1 guitar player, so I was thinking of making it sound as big as possible.
Like everything else, it sounds good in theory!

I got ya here. BTW... that's a great deal on a Rectoverb. Nice amps. Personally, I like to let the PA do the heavy lifting and keep stage volume as low as possible. I tend to use my own amp to monitor myself but I mic it and run it to the house. I actually keep my cab at the back turned around so that the drummer and bass player get the spill if that makes any sense. Overall I want as little of my stage mix to get to the crowd as possible.

 

[Monsta-Tone]

That does make sense.

We play pretty quietly actually. I only had the DC on 3 last night, which is about 10 for a Marshall! :lol:

My ears weren't ringing though, which is beautiful!



So, anyway.....does this sound like a good idea? I've been kicking it around for quite a while. I think that the 2 amps together would sound really good.

 

[madryan]

That does make sense.

We play pretty quietly actually. I only had the DC on 3 last night, which is about 10 for a Marshall! :lol:

My ears weren't ringing though, which is beautiful!



So, anyway.....does this sound like a good idea? I've been kicking it around for quite a while. I think that the 2 amps together would sound really good.

Yeah, the would sound great together. I'm going to build a setup with my DC-5 for cleans and leads and my Orange for crunch and cleans. It's going to be epic. I'll have it all setup for MIDI switching.

You swapped out the trannies and did the volume mod on the DC correct? I wanted to bias mod mine at some point and was wondering if you'd done that.

 

[Monsta-Tone]

Hell yeah I did!

You wouldn't believe the things I've done to this poor amp:

Cathode/Fixed Bias switch
Adjustable Bias
Merc Magnetics trannys
Much better Reverb
Extremely better channel 1
Footswitch jack up front for channel & EQ (I have an A version)
Bunch of other crap that I forgot
Series Loop

 

[madryan]

Hell yeah I did!

You wouldn't believe the things I've done to this poor amp:

Cathode/Fixed Bias switch
Adjustable Bias
Merc Magnetics trannys
Much better Reverb
Extremely better channel 1
Footswitch jack up front for channel & EQ (I have an A version)
Bunch of other crap that I forgot
Series Loop

I'm quite happy with mine aside from the inability to bias it. I'm pretty handy with a soldering iron so I could probably do it myself but have no idea how. I did my own loop mod so that blend pot is just sitting there. I could throw a bias pot in there or something.

My Orange has MM trannies stock. Sounds killer. Here's a pic.

 

[Monsta-Tone]

Yeah, that's where I usually put it. Or, sometimes I put an adjustable Negative Feedback pot there.