Quad: Is the Rhythm 2 mode actually "Clean"?

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JT_Marshmallow

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I'm beginning to get frustrated with the limitations of the shared tone stack and EQ on my Studio Pre. I'm considering upgrading to a Quad for more options, but does that separate Rhythm 2 mode actually get sparkly clean at high volumes like Rhythm 1? From what I've read, Rhythm 2 gets more gritty and crunchy, or "brown" if you will.

What I envision is a good saturated lead sound on Lead 1 and a really warm clean sound on Rhythm 2. Is this possible with the Quad?
 
I'll tell you tomorrow: be heading to our rehearsal spot and I can crank it up and try it out heh. I don't think I've even tried using Rhy 2 as a clean channel in years ;P IIRC, it can produce a pretty nice sounding clean tone at very low volume settings. Funny, really, that Rhy 2 is by a large margin the most versatile channel in the box, and my least used, also by a large margin. Of course somebody else that has more experience with it can probably get you a better answer sooner, but I'll try to toss my opinion on it up here tomorrow.
 
I'm not sure what your question is. Do you WANT a nice clean or a dirty brown sound? What I've been able to do with my Quad is to have 4 more or less distinctive sounds.

R1 is a very bright clean. Good for lots of things and can be tamed by using the tone knob on your guitar to roll off some highs.

R2 is slightly dirty, but no where near as bright. More "warm" or "muddy".

L1 is a bright Lead, tuned for a "Metal" sound. Scooped mids etc.

L2 is a bluesy Santana-ish pushed mids and heavy sound.

Each one of these has totally different characteristics when a boost pedal is used. R1 becomes a bright crunchy sound, R2 a "Brown" sound tho its a bit muddy for how I have it set, L1 becomes a over the top lead, and L2 is just balls to the wall infinite sustain and some nice feedback.

I like to run both the L1 and L2 at the same time so that the characteristics of both channels gets mixed but is not over powering. The mid heavy L2 is balanced by the scooped and bright L1. Add a boost and it sounds godly.

You can activate two channels at once with the Quad, which can yield some interesting sounds, not always useful and sometimes similar in combinations, but it makes it that much more powerful, and since you have two independent GEQ's you have even more added flexibility.
 
I like to run both the L1 and L2 at the same time so that the characteristics of both channels gets mixed but is not over powering. The mid heavy L2 is balanced by the scooped and bright L1. Add a boost and it sounds godly.


Cool idea! I didn't think of doing that yet but I've only had my Quad a few weeks - and most of that time I've been rebuilding it! Just starting to get the hang of it right now.

What are you using for a boost pedal: a Keeley DS1?

I'd sure like to see some settings too...
 
...also, do you find that the Lead-2 Volume does nothing to increase the volume above 3 on the control? The overall volume is loud enough but doesn't get any louder above about 3.

There's a possibility it could be an F'd pot... (virtually everything else was!)
 
yes, it is possible to have clean rhythm channel 2...look at the manual, there is it, i can't remember exactly but there was something that the master has to be at 10, I will check it again...anyways, it works so. :)
 
I'm not sure what your question is. Do you WANT a nice clean or a dirty brown sound?
I was looking for a nice clean on R2. I want to know if I can set a Quad like this:

L1: creamy saturated lead tone
R2: great clean tone that doesn't break up but is fat and bright (like that of R1 if possible)

This way I can have a separate tone stack and EQ for both clean and lead sounds.

L1 is a bright Lead, tuned for a "Metal" sound. Scooped mids etc.

L2 is a bluesy Santana-ish pushed mids and heavy sound.

From what I've read, L2 is the channel voiced for scooped riffing. Have you managed to make L1 and L2 sound almost identical by tweaking their EQ's?
 
Well I tried a little bit and with a low volume setting and not slamming the front of the amp (I have a constant boost thing going on) I was able to get a pretty nice, but more importantly, a serious 'clean' tone out of R2. I didn't do much with it beyond that.

From what I've read, L2 is the channel voiced for scooped riffing. Have you managed to make L1 and L2 sound almost identical by tweaking their EQ's?

You can get them sounding pretty similar if you want, but generally I find this last description fairly accurate. L2 seems to by 'default' be a bit on the darker side. I'd say it was a bit 'scooped' compared to L1 but to my terrible ears it seems like a lot of the difference is in the higher side of the midrange. L1 just seems to naturally have a more 'present' sound, in addition to sounding more... well, more 'organic' if you want to call it that: a bit more of the 'acousticy' thing, or closer to say a single-coil sound when you're running buckers. Obviously they won't be identical, but backing off on the volume and gain for ch2 and dialing in a bit more of the upper-mid type stuff can get L2 quite similar to L1.

If you don't have much/any use for the other two channels you should be fine running the channels like that, though you might end up having to have the Ch2 master much higher than the Ch1 or something along those lines.

Obviously it's all personal preference but I'd generally recommend flipping the setup from what you want. L2 can churn out a really nice singing, creamy distorted lead tone that is probably on par, though a bit different, than L1 (L1 is still the high point of the unit, I think) but... I mean, R2 might be the versatile channel, but R1 is just godly.

But yes, I think your specified setup is quite possible, and if that's what you're looking for, I hope somebody that has more experience with the R2 as clean mode can help you out, since I've always used it for at least a crunchy/overdriven tone.
 

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