new tune called "sinner" done with my boogie stuff

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click on the link below and check it out....let me know if you guys dig it!

http://www.cumberlandcreative.com/wisdom/Sinner.mp3
 
I think you need to be banned from posting clips because that was just waaaaaay too good and polished for me to ever want to post a clip up. I liked the song, had a very Alice in Chains quality to it. The production of your recording sounds imaculate as well...what boogie gear was I listening to?
 
reo73 said:
I think you need to be banned from posting clips because that was just waaaaaay too good and polished for me to ever want to post a clip up. I liked the song, had a very Alice in Chains quality to it. The production of your recording sounds imaculate as well...what boogie gear was I listening to?

wow!!!! I am very humbled by your kind words....thanks a bunch!!!

the boogie gear; a triaxis, 20/20 power amp, rectifier cab, lexicon mpx-1 for effects.

I used a beta 57a on the cab.

I used a PRS custom 22 and an eric johnson signature strat for the electric guitars and the acoustic guitar was run direct.
 
I had a 20/20 a few years back that I paired up with a Soldano SP77 and ADA MP-1. Great sounding little rig.

I have a question since I am just now getting into recording. What is your technique for getting a nice thick recorded distorted tone? Is there some mic tricks I should know? I am using a SM57 into a Fostex MR8 unit.
 
reo73 said:
I had a 20/20 a few years back that I paired up with a Soldano SP77 and ADA MP-1. Great sounding little rig.

I have a question since I am just now getting into recording. What is your technique for getting a nice thick recorded distorted tone? Is there some mic tricks I should know? I am using a SM57 into a Fostex MR8 unit.

well for me there are no "tricks".....i usually take my mic and place it dead center on one of the speakers in my cab....nearly all the way against grill in some cases but never more that a few inches away from the cab. i'm not against using different techinques at all and I understand the potential great benefit from using tricks and different strategies.

however, the recordings you hear from me are made in a normal home studio.....i dont have isolation booths or rooms....i'm usually sitting in the same room playing my guitar part just a few feet away from my cab using headphones.....because of this there is always going to be too much room noise to allow distance micing etc....i also record at what most people would surely consider to be very low volumes as I have a family that doesn't really care if my tube amp sounds better cranked....they dont want the whole house shaking when i record!!!!!!!!!!

so i guess i do some standard generally accepted stuff and then some of what I do is a little different but works for me. the best advice i can give you is this;

1) decide what kind of guitar sounds you really are looking for (really listening to great sounding cd's will help here) 2) make sure you purchase a quality amp that will allow you build a great guitar sound 3) record and mix the tune....then LISTEN to it on several different stereos and make notes of what works well and what doesn't for the whole mix but focus your attention on the guitar 4) go back and make adjustments until you get somethign that osunds great when mixed down. compare your tones to the great cd's you love....try to figure out soncially what the differences are you hear. most folks have a hard time understanding that many great guitar sounds on your favorite cd's might not sound so impressive if you heard the guitar track with no other instruments......thats because a good mix is like a "sonic puzzle" the pieces must fit together and to do that you don't need that "finger of god" guitar sound that overrides the sonic resting places of the bass, drums and vocals....then your whole mix suffers.....when you are able to have enough confidence to trust that the other instruments (if properly eq'ed) will help you guitar sound in a great mix then you are well on your way....but it's tough to do because we all love that big huge nasty guitar tone and then wonder what happened during the mix.....i've rambled enough i hope some of this makes sense!!!!
 
Thanks for the insight. I have been experimenting with mic placement and such and sometimes I am pleased and other times not but still have not found the sound I hear when I play live. I am completely satisifed with my live tone as I hear it in the mix of a live band but recording my amp is a whole new ballgame.
 
reo73 said:
Thanks for the insight. I have been experimenting with mic placement and such and sometimes I am pleased and other times not but still have not found the sound I hear when I play live. I am completely satisifed with my live tone as I hear it in the mix of a live band but recording my amp is a whole new ballgame.

you couldnt be anymore right about that!!! I primarily record now but when i played live i had two different sets of presets...one for live and one for the studio because they are absolutely two different beasts in my opinion.
 
Wow dude - nice. Do I hear a touch of Brother Cane? That's a compliment btw. Very catchy. I'm not a fan of the direct acoustic though - a little...plastic? Love the progression though, vocals nice and clear, great harmonies.
 
fredster said:
Wow dude - nice. Do I hear a touch of Brother Cane? That's a compliment btw. Very catchy. I'm not a fan of the direct acoustic though - a little...plastic? Love the progression though, vocals nice and clear, great harmonies.

thanks a bunch! yes, I love brother cane so i take that as a compliment! I understand the direct acoustic thing but we were goign for a real tight sounding acoustic and it was a great deal easier to record direct thru the avalon. I appreciate the comments though!
 
great tone and recording! how much did you worked on the post-equalization? I'm asking because you said you put the mic dead center on one speaker...
 
ytse_jam said:
great tone and recording! how much did you worked on the post-equalization? I'm asking because you said you put the mic dead center on one speaker...

absolutely no post eq at all on the guitars..........i'm a firm believer that you should work as hard as possible to capture the best tone you can the first time......that then allows you the opportunity to tweak if necessary to make it all fit together with a great guitar sound to begin with. in my opinion if you record a lousy guitar sound to begin with you can only tweak so much and never get it right.

so i work hard to program my tones on my triaxis to sound good when recorded with the mic placed dead center on the speaker......this is the kind of tweaking and work i do in between recordings so when i actually record a new song i don't get bogged down and waste time trying to get a good guitar sound.
 
You my friend, sure have the skills to do the job (well) done!! 8)

heard some of Vertical Horizons, Acroma and a Brazilian artist called Zeca Baleiro.

cool song!! :D
 
i didnt like the direct acoustic sound when i listened earlier today with headphones, but it sounds really tight through my speakers now. good stuff
 
eltrain858 said:
i didnt like the direct acoustic sound when i listened earlier today with headphones, but it sounds really tight through my speakers now. good stuff

thanks a bunch!
 
Right on man I love the tune!!!
Please email me if there is any way to download it and others you've done.
[email protected] put "as requested" in the subject line.
 
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