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dongh1217

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I love the sound from my little 20/20, and don't think I will upgrade to 2:90 at all. :p

Got one question for 20/20owners, how would deep mod for 20/20 sounds like, does it worth the mod or not at all? Cheers for your help!!!

here some pics of updated my rig.
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how would deep mod for 20/20 sounds like
I never understand that mod, I like mods, but coherent mods, in my point of view trying to get more bass on the 20/20 is a nonsense in my opinion.
I think that before you do any mod you must to look all your enviroment, for example 20/20 uses the el84 tubes, that tubes are the british classical tubes in class A amps. The british sound is a totally balanced tone between bass, middle and treble. On the other hand tubes like 6v6 or 6l6 has a rock standard tone, with great highs and strong push bass ( the V eq settings ).
One of the nice tones of the british tubes designs are the presence middles.
Once a time I test the 20-20 power amp from marshall, with the same tubes. That amps sounds great but when you activate an extra low frecuencies punch it sounds amazing the first minute ( " hey mom It sounds like Steve Vai ") but the later minute I said " wait, wait, wait, where are the singing mids that are on every el84 tube ", that ******* extra punch circuit kill all the feeling of the el84.
I think that if mesa wants on the 20/20 an american rock tone they will designed the 20/20 with the 6v6 like fender amps. But I think that they were looking for a more british sound.
The tone of the 20/20 is perfect, it is warm and vintage and this tone is the only reason to buy that amp, the triaxis with that amps achieve the perfect clean and semisaturated tones for country, funk, blues and jazz.
And I think that if the tone is not correct for you, try to test a 2:90, because it has million functions than the 20/20 except that pretty vintage tone.
If you really want more low end response I could recomend to you replace the boogie el84 tubes and try the jj el84.
 
fatboy135 said:
how would deep mod for 20/20 sounds like
I never understand that mod, I like mods, but coherent mods, in my point of view trying to get more bass on the 20/20 is a nonsense in my opinion.
I think that before you do any mod you must to look all your enviroment, for example 20/20 uses the el84 tubes, that tubes are the british classical tubes in class A amps. The british sound is a totally balanced tone between bass, middle and treble. On the other hand tubes like 6v6 or 6l6 has a rock standard tone, with great highs and strong push bass ( the V eq settings ).
One of the nice tones of the british tubes designs are the presence middles.
Once a time I test the 20-20 power amp from marshall, with the same tubes. That amps sounds great but when you activate an extra low frecuencies punch it sounds amazing the first minute ( " hey mom It sounds like Steve Vai ") but the later minute I said " wait, wait, wait, where are the singing mids that are on every el84 tube ", that f%&# extra punch circuit kill all the feeling of the el84.
I think that if mesa wants on the 20/20 an american rock tone they will designed the 20/20 with the 6v6 like fender amps. But I think that they were looking for a more british sound.
The tone of the 20/20 is perfect, it is warm and vintage and this tone is the only reason to buy that amp, the triaxis with that amps achieve the perfect clean and semisaturated tones for country, funk, blues and jazz.
And I think that if the tone is not correct for you, try to test a 2:90, because it has million functions than the 20/20 except that pretty vintage tone.
If you really want more low end response I could recomend to you replace the boogie el84 tubes and try the jj el84.


thanks heaps for the information, I love the sound from 20/20 way better than 2:90, that's whyI brought it, but I just wonder how it would sounds like with mod. Thanks
 
no matter man, that is the forum, to share opinions, I think that if you really want a bit more bass with the jj are enough, enjoy the 20/20 under my opinion is the best tube power amp of mesa :wink:
 
Sorry to bring this up from the dead.


My question is for the original author: How do you use the PV TF with the TA? Are the preamp sounds comparable? Have you ever tried using the TA in the loop of the TF?

Reason being is I just made a lengthy post about buying a TA and need a bit of a shove in the right direction as I am on the fence. I own a TF, and plan to keep it, but want to know if the TA is a worthwhile addition.
 

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