New Amp Day - Ampeg V4

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oh god loud

:lol:

Seriously, the first thing you notice about this amp is that it is a whole new kind of loud. It makes my JCM800 sound restrained and my MkIII sound teeny. This one is a 1972ish Magnavox that is still set up for 7027s so there's at least 120 watts available RMS, and peaks can allegedly be something ridiculous like 250 watts. Having the volume on 3 is really, really loud, like, the point at which my Mark III stops getting much louder; 5 is mind-altering. There's a suggested setting in the manual where the volume goes on 10, which I think must be meant as a joke. There's still no significant compression happening at 5 and I seriously can't imagine how you could play with this thing past 5 unless you are literally in a stadium where you can stand 30 feet away from the cab (which, realistically, is what it was meant for--playing big venues with no PA.)

What all this power gives you is just a goofy amount of dynamics and headroom-- I'll be noodling along playing single-note and legato stuff and then when I hit a chord it's this humungous BOOOOOM.

Tonally there's a lot available and someone put a lot of thought into this-- the tone controls are pretty much full-range though unless you are playing a very twangy single-coil you'll never need the bass past noon. Treble seems to control the headroom a lot, less treble will compress the sound a little. Mid becomes an overdrive past noon. There's a lot of dirt to be had in this amp if you can handle the volume, though the drive you get is much better for rhythm (it's a really thick, 'swirling' sort of sound) than leads which always sound a little fuzzy. Cleaner leads sound better.

The reverb is an endless cavern compared to a Mark III and has tons of character but is quite noisy-- this is apparently an issue in the circuit as designed, which is why there's actually a way to cut the reverb circuit out completely by pushing in the 'reverb key' on the back of the amp.

It seems very picky about guitars and pickups-- my '82 Yamaha SG, which is a 12-pound slab of mahogany with thick sustain for days that sounds like God through any Mesa or Marshall, just sounds kind of dull and lifeless through the Ampeg. My '80ish Yamaki Onyx (basically a Washburn Hawk) which is sort of springy, bright, and nasal through many amps sounds absolutely amazing, I think because it can really take advantage of the dynamic range available.

I'm trying to get some clips happening over the next few days. I don't know how long I'm gonna hold onto this one because no matter how awesome it sounds it's literally too loud to be useful in any of my current playing situations.
 
I picked one up a couple of years and I guarantee I'll never get rid of it. 8) I've got one of the later versions, supposedly inferior to your model, and it still sounds killer. Incredible cleans, great reverb, and much louder than my Dual.
I can't speak for yours, but mine's incredibly pedal friendly, and the reverb's not noisy at all. So many tones in there, too.
I've been running a Jekyll and Hyde through mine, a pedal I initially disliked somewhat, but through the V-4 it sounds like pure sonic glory. OCD sounds pretty good, too, but not a versatile as the J&H.
Every now and then I slave my Dual and run them both at the same time.....talk about crap your pants loud! :twisted:
 
:D My very first tube amp was an old Ampeg V4.
I used it on top of 2 Traynor 4x10 cabs and pushed it with an Ibanez Sonic Distortion pedal.
I wish I still had it.
 
I bet your neighbors are glad you don't! :)

I had a Marshall Major back in the day too - that was also a whole other kind of loud. I once got a complaint about volume from a quarter mile away with it, I felt that was quite impressive...
 
94Tremoverb said:
I had a Marshall Major back in the day too - that was also a whole other kind of loud. I once got a complaint about volume from a quarter mile away with it, I felt that was quite impressive...

LOL - Awesome!
 
I'd get the biggest Weber MASS and keep that amp. It won't be too loud anymore and it will get some new tones too. The MASS will add compression to tame some of those dynamics as well.
 
212Mavguy: Yeah, it's a keeper, there's just so few old Ampegs around that haven't been frankensteined at some point and there's really nothing else since that sounds quite like them.

I'm discovered that running it through a fairly undistinguished old Avatar 2x12 with two original EVM-12Ls in it at a minor mismatch (cab is like 6.7 ohms, using the 4 ohm output on the V4) make it a little more manageable. My bass player has an old 2x15 cab with some modern drivers in it... now THAT is a big sound with the V4. The thing with the Ampeg is you don't really notice how friggin' loud it is (unless your pants are moving) because it's such a warm, complex sound-- there's not a single piercing frequency in there. Then you stop playing and realise you don't hear anything (and won't for 36 hours...)

I didn't know Weber Masses came that big-- I'll probably give them a call and see if they know of anyone using them with these beasts. I used to have a Mass 150 but I ditched it for a Powerbrake (!) The only thing I ever attenuate now is a JCM800 and it, unsurprisingly, sounds best through the Marshall attenuator (though nothing else sounds good through there.)
 
Weber makes one rated at 200 watts. Get the balanced out jack for a TRS option and you won't ever have to mic an amp again. Goes right to the sound board through a TRS cable, about half of the front of mine is the tone stack for that out for shaping the volume and sound the board gets from your amp. 200 watt rating is plenty of capacity for your V4, you don't really want to run the amp dimed into an attenuated load that cuts the volume to a whisper anyway, amps and power tubes don't care for that as much as whispering along with the volume turned down and unattenuated. ;)

My hunnerd watter gave me a whole new palette of tones from clean through scream. :shock:

I love the 2/15 thang. Mine is a semi closed back that I Frank'ed :twisted: from an Allen Organ flutes cab courtesy of fleabay, it is filled with a pair of JBL G135-8's.
 

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