Mesa Dual Rec. Rev. F Clip with Greenbacks

[Anonymous]

I think this recording sounds pretty good, but that said it's not nearly as incredible as being in the same room! I use a 4x12 Bogner with a 4x12 Recto cab on top, both loaded with UK - made greenbacks.

Please, let me know what you think of the tone!

http://www.netmusicians.org/files/67-10-11-2009 - Rev. F - G12M - e602.mp3

 

[YellowJacket]

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I love the greenbacks. You don't find them a touch loose for metal though? I prefer a more round / less scooped tone with this sort of a speaker. Personal preference and all that, I guess.

 

[Anonymous]

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I love the greenbacks. You don't find them a touch loose for metal though? I prefer a more round / less scooped tone with this sort of a speaker. Personal preference and all that, I guess.

I think a lot has to do with the fact that it's a stack and not just a 4x12, in terms of tightness. In pretty much all aspects, I like them over the V30s; I used to have both of those cabs loaded with them. I tried a Greenback cab a while back and was shocked to find how much I liked it with my Recto, with the only problem being I overpowered the cab. Since then, I've bought a whole bunch and sold off all but 4 of my V30s, and I couldn't be happier.

Specifically, the Greenbacks are more chewy where the V30s are more immediate. It translates to a far superior feel in soloing and single note lines. Tonally, the V30s seem fizzy and sound much more like plastic than the Greenbacks, not to mention the brighter Greenbacks have a beautiful tone for cleans and neck pickup distorted tones.

People keep telling me they love the Greenbacks but not for high gain; I'd be really interested as to what they might say in the room. I think they're great on a recording, but the reason I like them so much is because the V30s had these nasty high frequencies I couldn't get away from, even with my Bogner, and the Greenbacks have none of that. Can't wait to hear them with the Mark V!!! :twisted:

 

[mikey383]

Mikey likey!

Sounds good man!

 

[YellowJacket]

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I love the greenbacks. You don't find them a touch loose for metal though? I prefer a more round / less scooped tone with this sort of a speaker. Personal preference and all that, I guess.

I think a lot has to do with the fact that it's a stack and not just a 4x12, in terms of tightness. In pretty much all aspects, I like them over the V30s; I used to have both of those cabs loaded with them. I tried a Greenback cab a while back and was shocked to find how much I liked it with my Recto, with the only problem being I overpowered the cab. Since then, I've bought a whole bunch and sold off all but 4 of my V30s, and I couldn't be happier.

Specifically, the Greenbacks are more chewy where the V30s are more immediate. It translates to a far superior feel in soloing and single note lines. Tonally, the V30s seem fizzy and sound much more like plastic than the Greenbacks, not to mention the brighter Greenbacks have a beautiful tone for cleans and neck pickup distorted tones.

People keep telling me they love the Greenbacks but not for high gain; I'd be really interested as to what they might say in the room. I think they're great on a recording, but the reason I like them so much is because the V30s had these nasty high frequencies I couldn't get away from, even with my Bogner, and the Greenbacks have none of that. Can't wait to hear them with the Mark V!!! :twisted:

OK, I think I didn't articulate myself clearly enough. I wasn't talking about the flubby low end that results from speakers getting the tar kicked out of them. I'm talking about speaker distortion, or the tendency of a speaker to add 'gain' to a tone. G12T-75s can take more power than a v30, but the cone has a looser feel so it gives more speaker distortion so they are similar to G12m 25s (greenbacks) in a way. When I talk about v30s being tight, I'm talking about how they sound fizzy and constipated at low volumes. They have to be pushed to the max to get a decent sound out of them. As a result of this 'plasticky' or 'rigid' sound, they can handle insane amounts of distortion from a head and maintain clarity, something I thought might be desirable for someone who plays metal. Obviously, you prefer a speaker that sounds more 'open' or breaths a bit more, as do I.

I have found that with greenbacks, I back off the gain to find that clarity again. Since the speakers are doing some of the work, I like to let them colour the sound. Don't get me wrong, I think your rig hauls, I was simply curious about this particular property of sound that results from running greenbacks.

For me personally, I like a mix of v30s with greenbacks. I think when I use my rectocab again I'll swap in two G12H 30s with the v30s and maybe add a mills style baffle to the inside of the cab. Tweaking is FUN and my 4 x 12 ought to be able to keep up with my 2 x 12.