Just wondering if this is the same with anyone else. Now let me first declare that I like a bright and biting tone. So I dont expect anyone to use my settings long term nor do I expect them to like them. Anyhow I have found that channel 2 mark I mode almost unusable. At least for metal rhythms. Its got a great fluid like tone for soloing but it seems very dark to me. Im not sure if this is how it is supposed to be as in the manual it claims that it is capable of crushing rhythms. Second is that in any wattage mode if the gain and the treble are up all the way I get really bad squeeling. I was thinking it was normal microphonic squeel but it actually starts at 3 oclock and will actually change pitch between 3 and 5. Now this again is with the gain dimed and the treble dimed at the same time. Is this normal? and is this channel really supposed to be this dark and fluid like?
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mark i mode is very dark and thick and fluid, yes.
if you dime the treble and gain in any amp, you're likely going to hear some squealing at one point or another.
although I just did that with ch2 crunch and it didn't squeal at all in the house in 10 watts. so perhaps you have a microphonic preamp tube, not sure.
if you dime the treble and gain in any amp, you're likely going to hear some squealing at one point or another.
although I just did that with ch2 crunch and it didn't squeal at all in the house in 10 watts. so perhaps you have a microphonic preamp tube, not sure.
Rabies is right. I Tend to find that on Crunch I tend to go gain 2-3 oclock with max treble, or gain flat out but treble at like 2 o clock for best results.
Mark I mode I tend to disregard the EQ, go max treb, gain 11 or 12 oclock. with bass on like 8-9 oclock. Plenty of balls, less fizz
Might sound silly, but have you checked to see if your v1 cover hasn't slipped down, leaving the the valve picking up the extra noise? Cause that happens to mine a lot.
Mark I mode I tend to disregard the EQ, go max treb, gain 11 or 12 oclock. with bass on like 8-9 oclock. Plenty of balls, less fizz
Might sound silly, but have you checked to see if your v1 cover hasn't slipped down, leaving the the valve picking up the extra noise? Cause that happens to mine a lot.
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yeah I checked the cover and even tapped on some tubes with no change. Like i said this only happens with settings that I would never even use. It only happens in mark 1 mode with both the gain and treble maxed. But when you turn either control down the pitch of the squeeling changes until it disappears entirely. Really odd, but its not really a concern of mine as I never use that mode nor do i run my controls like that. I was just going through the amp trying anything and everything and just really trying to get to know it. That is no easy task. Im just surprised at how many posts I see of people who cant find a good sound out of the amp. Maybe im just not that picky or dont know good tone. But I find the amp to be very easy to dial in for my needs.
Oooh That might (excluding dodgy leads of pickups) be a case of preamp tube replacement then... The V1 is 1st one I'd swap out, as its my understanding that that is the commonality with all the modes.
Well if its outside of your used tone spectrum, at least its not putting you out of action...
I agree. It didnt take me long to find where it was at with each channels 'optimums'.
Best amp Ive ever played and much more user friendly than I'd anticipated.. I was new at the time to Mark series ownership and feared the worst..
Once I'd sussed the Bass/Gain thing, it seemed completely logical....I initially confused tone I 'didnt like' with tone that was actually pretty good in hindsight but which left the flaws in my playing exposed. Maybe a lot of players saying that are in that boat or something.
Also the amp can sound dry and over middy on its own in some settings....but put it in a mix and it slays.
But I wouldn't want to play any other amp now and like yourself, can dial tone within a minute.
And Im surprised each day still by its versatility. I dont think theres a style (Rock, vintage speed and modern Metal, Jazz, Blues of all kinds, Funk) i've not been able to use it with and it not get results that have even surpassed what I was aiming for.
Im keeping this amp til I die and if anyone were to steal it, I would happily do time for ending them.
Well if its outside of your used tone spectrum, at least its not putting you out of action...
I agree. It didnt take me long to find where it was at with each channels 'optimums'.
Best amp Ive ever played and much more user friendly than I'd anticipated.. I was new at the time to Mark series ownership and feared the worst..
Once I'd sussed the Bass/Gain thing, it seemed completely logical....I initially confused tone I 'didnt like' with tone that was actually pretty good in hindsight but which left the flaws in my playing exposed. Maybe a lot of players saying that are in that boat or something.
Also the amp can sound dry and over middy on its own in some settings....but put it in a mix and it slays.
But I wouldn't want to play any other amp now and like yourself, can dial tone within a minute.
And Im surprised each day still by its versatility. I dont think theres a style (Rock, vintage speed and modern Metal, Jazz, Blues of all kinds, Funk) i've not been able to use it with and it not get results that have even surpassed what I was aiming for.
Im keeping this amp til I die and if anyone were to steal it, I would happily do time for ending them.
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purpledc said:
That's exactly like my initial impression of the Mark I mode! :lol:
Perfect for thick, saturated leads, virtually unusable for rhythm (too dark, muffled, etc.).
What fixed it for me was...SED =C= EL34 power tubes. This is one of the modes that benefited the most from them. They made the mode totally change its character: it had edge, it had bite, it was like a hotrodded Vox (or Marshall) from hell. And you could actually turn the bass knob up a bit without getting mush. Definitely one of the best modes with EL34s, authoritative and versatile.
Of course, power tube changes are always a tradeoff. EL34s will mean less sonorous clean tones on Channel 1, and their effect on Channel 3 is a matter of preference (more bite and aggression, prettier/less scratchy highs, less low-frequency thump). But all Channel 2 modes benefit immensely from EL34s IMHO.
Yeah Im interested in el34's but I just got some new 6l6's for it so maybe after a year or so or if I get bored Ill get some el34s. Honestly though I like the amp so much the way it is that I wouldnt want to switch if it meant giving up my favorite tones just for the same of the mark 1 mode. Id rather love 8 modes than just like all 9.
What?
I would never use the Ch2 Mk I mode for metal rhythm or lead tones. Very poor choice for that type of sound IMO. Ch2 Mk I is best suited for fluid lead tones and yes it is inherently dark (think Santana lead sounds) from this mode. When I use the Mk I mode.....I set the bass and mids very low and treble presence fairly high (not dimed). However, I am not one to dime my gain and treble in any mode of the V regardless of channel/mode/power setting to achieve a good tone. Diming gain and treble in any mode of the V kills the tone IMO, but to each their own!
If you are after a metal rhythm and/or lead sound.....use Ch3 in whichever mode you prefer and engage the GEQ to taste. Ch3 MkIV and Extreme modes with GEQ set to taste gets me there best for metal sounds. My .02
I would never use the Ch2 Mk I mode for metal rhythm or lead tones. Very poor choice for that type of sound IMO. Ch2 Mk I is best suited for fluid lead tones and yes it is inherently dark (think Santana lead sounds) from this mode. When I use the Mk I mode.....I set the bass and mids very low and treble presence fairly high (not dimed). However, I am not one to dime my gain and treble in any mode of the V regardless of channel/mode/power setting to achieve a good tone. Diming gain and treble in any mode of the V kills the tone IMO, but to each their own!
If you are after a metal rhythm and/or lead sound.....use Ch3 in whichever mode you prefer and engage the GEQ to taste. Ch3 MkIV and Extreme modes with GEQ set to taste gets me there best for metal sounds. My .02
