Mark V in stereo!

[espmaster1]

So, question!

I have a Mark V, and an Eventide Timefactor, paired with it I have a Mesa Boogie 2x12 and a Port City 2x12...

I want to run those delays in stereo and I don't know much about power amps and what not, so how can I get the same tone out of my PC as I do my MB cab without having to buy ANOTHER Mark V, which just isn't happening...
Is that even possible?

I'm just trying to get my A delay in my MB cab and my stereo B delay in my PC cab.

 

[theroan]

The best option would be slave out to the power amp, but I don't think that's technically stereo. Sadly you need to go effects out to two separate amps to get the delay A/B thing going on.

However, depending on your uses, you might not need another Mark V. In my case, I don't use many effects outside the clean channel, so you could by a nice clean amp to along with it. A different amp sound will only increase the stereo spread.

 

[ifailedshapes]

You need another power amp. You could use the effects return of a different amp, or you could use a separate power amp such as a 20/20, 50/50, etc. Basically you take the effects out of your Mark V into the input of your Eventide. The left output of the Eventide goes into the effects return of your Mark V and the right output goes into the other power amp. Good luck.

 

[screamingdaisy]

To do stereo you need a second power amp... which can be accomplished by using the effects loop return of another amp or getting hold of a dedicated power amp.

 

[espmaster1]

A dedicated power amp? Could you elaborate on that, it sounds interesting!

 

[ifailedshapes]

A guitar amplifier is really two separate pieces put together: preamp and power amp. The preamp generates the tone, and the power amp, well, amplifies it. The effects loop in a guitar amplifier comes between these two sections, which is why send and return are sometimes labeled "preamp out" and "power amp in".

Perhaps you've heard of the Triaxis, Rectifier Recording Preamp, or some other non-Mesa guitar preamp. These units generate the tone, but alone are not enough to drive a cabinet. Power amps are used in these situations. They can also be used for what you want to achieve. Judging by the gear list in your signature, money isn't too much of an issue for you (or you've maxxed out multiple credit cards :lol: ), so I'd recommend trying a wet/dry/wet setup.

Basically, in w/d/w you have a center dry channel (no effects) and stereo left and right with your effects. By effects I don't mean wahs or or other stomp boxes that go before you amp; I mean delays, modulations - time based effects.

Here's a link to one of Mesa's dedicated power amps: http://www.mesaboogie.com/Product_Info/Stereo_Power/Simul_2_Ninety/simul_2_ninety.html

They manufacture a few other ones as well, and there are other companies (Marshall, Fryette, etc) that make similar products.

 

[espmaster1]

Really helpful post, thanks a lot man I appreciate that! I'll take a look at that, I've seen it pretty frequently. And yes, let's just say I owe more than I own >.<

 

[theroan]

A separate power amp is not going to do what you want it to do. If you want to have two delays running in stereo, one running at say 300ms on the right and another at 150ms on the left. You need two separate lines coming out of the effects unit into two different amps. The Mark V only has one input, even if you put a "stereo" delay out mono from the effects unit into the Mark V, it can't magically separate the two sound and barf one of which out of the slave out to the extra power amp.

 

[screamingdaisy]

A separate power amp is not going to do what you want it to do. If you want to have two delays running in stereo, one running at say 300ms on the right and another at 150ms on the left. You need two separate lines coming out of the effects unit into two different amps. The Mark V only has one input, even if you put a "stereo" delay out mono from the effects unit into the Mark V, it can't magically separate the two sound and barf one of which out of the slave out to the extra power amp.

Effects loop send > Stereo Delay >

Delay Out Left > Effects loop return.
Delay Out Right > Input of separate power amp.

 

[espmaster1]

A separate power amp is not going to do what you want it to do. If you want to have two delays running in stereo, one running at say 300ms on the right and another at 150ms on the left. You need two separate lines coming out of the effects unit into two different amps. The Mark V only has one input, even if you put a "stereo" delay out mono from the effects unit into the Mark V, it can't magically separate the two sound and barf one of which out of the slave out to the extra power amp.

Effects loop send > Stereo Delay >

Delay Out Left > Effects loop return.
Delay Out Right > Input of separate power amp.

That's what I had in mind.

 

[phyrexia]

A separate power amp is not going to do what you want it to do. If you want to have two delays running in stereo, one running at say 300ms on the right and another at 150ms on the left. You need two separate lines coming out of the effects unit into two different amps. The Mark V only has one input, even if you put a "stereo" delay out mono from the effects unit into the Mark V, it can't magically separate the two sound and barf one of which out of the slave out to the extra power amp.

Effects loop send > Stereo Delay >

Delay Out Left > Effects loop return.
Delay Out Right > Input of separate power amp.

+1

Is anybody really running a delay into the front of a Mark V?

 

[ifailedshapes]

Effects loop send > Stereo Delay >

Delay Out Left > Effects loop return.
Delay Out Right > Input of separate power amp.

Isn't that what I said at the top of this thread?

You need another power amp. You could use the effects return of a different amp, or you could use a separate power amp such as a 20/20, 50/50, etc. Basically you take the effects out of your Mark V into the input of your Eventide. The left output of the Eventide goes into the effects return of your Mark V and the right output goes into the other power amp. Good luck.

Oh yeah, it is.

 

[ifailedshapes]

A separate power amp is not going to do what you want it to do. If you want to have two delays running in stereo, one running at say 300ms on the right and another at 150ms on the left. You need two separate lines coming out of the effects unit into two different amps. The Mark V only has one input, even if you put a "stereo" delay out mono from the effects unit into the Mark V, it can't magically separate the two sound and barf one of which out of the slave out to the extra power amp.

Not to be a jerk, but this sarcastic post could have been avoided had you read the previous posts. Nobody said anything about using the slave out.