mark IV lead channel using Mark V

[ziggys]

No doubt has been done to death, but since I sold my IV i have really regretted it.
Is there some one out there that has or has had these two amps that has perhaps duplicated the M4 lead channel on a V?
I basically need to know
1) How would one duplicate "Pull Fat" on lead gain...or if it is possible
2) How to pull lead Drive if possible
3) How to choose Harmonics if possible
4) How to Pull shift on LD presence: Dial down to about 7
5) What would the knob positions be between and 5 and a 4: ie would 5 on a Mark IV be 12:00 o clock on a Mark 5?

I am seriously thinking of putting my credit card under the bus and buying it back but even for me, that thought just screams stupid.

Thanks guys

 

[ziggys]

bumbage

 

[rocknroll9225]

No doubt has been done to death, but since I sold my IV i have really regretted it.
Is there some one out there that has or has had these two amps that has perhaps duplicated the M4 lead channel on a V?
I basically need to know
1) How would one duplicate "Pull Fat" on lead gain...or if it is possible
2) How to pull lead Drive if possible
3) How to choose Harmonics if possible
4) How to Pull shift on LD presence: Dial down to about 7
5) What would the knob positions be between and 5 and a 4: ie would 5 on a Mark IV be 12:00 o clock on a Mark 5?

I am seriously thinking of putting my credit card under the bus and buying it back but even for me, that thought just screams stupid.

Thanks guys

1) Having never owned a Mark IV, I'm not really sure. I'd say maybe try bumping up the middle and bass knobs slightly?
2) The Bright switch
3) It's set permanently on harmonics. Mid gain is the one that's not available
4) Mark IV mode = presence pulled out. Extreme mode = presence pushed in.
5) Not accounting for any variations in the individual pots from amp to amp, that should be true. If you want to mirror your settings from your Mark IV, just put the pointer on the V's knobs wherever the 5 is on the IV's knobs. 9:00 = 2/10, 3:00 = 8/10, etc.

 

[ziggys]

Very helpful and thank you
Anyone else?
Thanks

 

[rocknroll9225]

Just flipped through the Mark V's manual again, and apparently the Mark IV mode has the pull fat hard wired on as well.

 

[Bullen]

All modes on ch 3 have the "pull Fat" (or Treble shift on earlier Marks) always engaged.

 

[JAZZGEAR]

I went through 3 Mark Vs, loved the amp, but kept my Mark IV through it all because at the end of the day the Mark V never sounded like the Mark IV in the lead dept..... not at all.

I have a custom hardwood Mark V on it's way -- cause I really did love the amp for the cleans, channel II, and the IIC+ mode, just not as a replacement for my IV.

 

[ziggys]

Jazzgear: Exactly my fear. Shouldn't have sold it. Shouldn't have sold it. Sheesh!
Bullen and Rockandroll 9225 Thanks. I thought I digested the V manual totally but completely missed some of it obviously.
Still I am up for the challenge but it will be tough without an actual Mark IV here. (Don't remind me)

 

[danyeo1]

The Mark IV has a better lead channel than the V because it allows you to tweak it more. The Mark V has a better R2 channel though. The Mark V is a jack of all trades but a master of none.

 

[dbone]

Personally I have yet to find one amp that does everything perfect.
Marks are a variety of choices packing a variety of features, no doubt some of your favs are going to be missing its the nature of the deal. You either work through it or don't sell your old equipment to finance everything. My personal opinion is to hang on to what you got until you can spend some time with the gear. And better yet hold on to it all so you have a arsenal of choices. Every amp has its strong suites.

 

[fr0sty]

There is a bit of info from the manual. Not sure if it helps or not.

SET II-C+ As Follows:
VOLUME (Far Left) control Pulled (Bright On) and set to Approx. 7 ¾. (This stage in the MARK V is set to a sweet spot we found
from measuring many amps and control deleted).
LEAD DRIVE Control Pulled and set to desired setting
All Tone Controls set by ear as close as possible (we measure each pot and set both exactly with an ohm meter).
PRESENCE set to desired setting. (0 or 10 is the most fair for comparisons sake and removes any pot variance).
GRAPHIC EQ Off (Bypassed)

SET MARK V As Follows:
GAIN control set by ear and relative “clock face” setting to II-C LEAD DRIVE.
Tone Controls set by ear and relative “clock face” setting as II-C Tone Controls. (Remember that II-C BASS control is in the 2nd position - MID is 3rd on II-C whereas MARK V is TREBLE, MID, BASS).
Channel 3 BRIGHT switch in the BRIGHT (switch down) position.
Rear Panel Channel 3 TRIODE / PENTODE switch set to TR

SET MARK IV As Follows:
Channel 3 (LEAD)
LEAD GAIN (FAR LEFT) Pulled and set to 7 ¾
LEAD DRIVE Pulled and set as desired
Channel 3 (LEAD) Tone Controls set as desired.
Pull All Controls (unless comparing EXTREME - then leave LEAD PRESENCE Pushed In = EXTREME)
PRESENCE set as desired (0 or 10 is most fair and removes pot variance)
Rear Panel TRIODE / PENTODE switch set to PENTODE

Set MARK V As Follows:
Channel 3 set to MK IV or EXTREME Mode (Make sure set the same as MARK IV)
GAIN set to match relative “clock face” setting of numeric LEAD DRIVE setting on MARK IV.
Channel 3 Tone Controls set to match relative “clock face” settings on Mark IV.
Channel 3 BRIGHT / NORMAL switch set to BRIGHT (switch down).
Channel 3 PRESENCE set to relative setting on MARK IV.
Rear Panel TRIODE / PENTODE switch set to PENTODE (switch up).
Rear Panel EFX LOOP switch set to ACTIVE (switch up).
You cannot hear the MK II C+ Mode in the MARK V’s response in an older MARK Series model because the coupling cap at the
end of the EQ in those amps is simply too big and is adding too much slow-lows to be a fair comparison.