just got outbid on Triaxis V 2.0

[rabies]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270609154680

thought it would be a good replacement for my JMP-1. Run it into my Rivera S120 power section (4xEL34).

What's a good used price for this preamp? What's the new price?

What are the differences b/n the two versions and the PHAT mod, etc.?

 

[ando]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270609154680

thought it would be a good replacement for my JMP-1. Run it into my Rivera S120 power section (4xEL34).

What's a good used price for this preamp? What's the new price?

What are the differences b/n the two versions and the PHAT mod, etc.?

Avoid the fat-mod. Hardly anyone likes it.

That is around the going rate for TRI on eBay. I got mine for $880 including a Ground Control MIDI pedal, a MIDI cable and other little bits and pieces - but that was a bargain.

New ones cost a whole lot more (over $2,000). If you aren't sure what you are buying, you wouldn't pay for a new one.

 

[MesaGod666]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270609154680

thought it would be a good replacement for my JMP-1. Run it into my Rivera S120 power section (4xEL34).

What's a good used price for this preamp? What's the new price?

What are the differences b/n the two versions and the PHAT mod, etc.?

It would be a great replacement for the JMP-1. I would say $1,200 is a decent price for a minty used TRIAXIS. I own two Mesa Triaxis preamps that I bought brand new for about $1,800 each and I couldn't be happier with them. The only types of people that don't like the PHAT MOD are those that play at bedroom levels. In fact, the only reason the MESA techs call it the PHAT MOD is because the bass is fuller and tighter on LD2Y and LD2R when you have it cranked to the appropriate volume (which for some people is too loud). The original version of the TRIAXIS had the LD1R Recto chip, which has since been out of production. The chip that MESA has in there now on the PHAT MOD is not anywhere close to the RECTO sound...it's more Marshally if anything. The Triaxis paired with the 2:Ninety is the most versatile amp on the market. It get's great reviews all over the place because the tone is amazing.

 

[ando]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270609154680

thought it would be a good replacement for my JMP-1. Run it into my Rivera S120 power section (4xEL34).

What's a good used price for this preamp? What's the new price?

What are the differences b/n the two versions and the PHAT mod, etc.?

It would be a great replacement for the JMP-1. I would say $1,200 is a decent price for a minty used TRIAXIS. I own two Mesa Triaxis preamps that I bought brand new for about $1,800 each and I couldn't be happier with them. The only types of people that don't like the PHAT MOD are those that play at bedroom levels. In fact, the only reason the MESA techs call it the PHAT MOD is because the bass is fuller and tighter on LD2Y and LD2R when you have it cranked to the appropriate volume (which for some people is too loud). The original version of the TRIAXIS had the LD1R Recto chip, which has since been out of production. The chip that MESA has in there now on the PHAT MOD is not anywhere close to the RECTO sound...it's more Marshally if anything. The Triaxis paired with the 2:Ninety is the most versatile amp on the market. It get's great reviews all over the place because the tone is amazing.

You're a bit off the mark there, MesaGod. The original Triaxis didn't have the Fat mod or the Recto board - it only had another Mark Series sound on LD1Red - described in the original manual as "High gain British style Lead").

Second series came out with the Recto board TX4 - LD1Red (rectifier). The Fat Mod was still a Recto sound on LD1Red, but with the so-called "fat" sound, Recto board TX5.

The latest series of Triaxis has no Fat Mod and no Recto either. I've heard it described as a "Lonestar lead" or just "Classic Boogie Lead".

 

[rabies]

Yeah, I noticed it has 5x12AX7 vs. 2x12AX7 in the JMP-1 (more SS sounding to me)

So maybe the newer PHAT mod unit is for me if under $1K running it into my Rivera power section (8-120 watts!)

 

[MesaGod666]

Yeah, I noticed it has 5x12AX7 vs. 2x12AX7 in the JMP-1 (more SS sounding to me)

So maybe the newer PHAT mod unit is for me if under $1K running it into my Rivera power section (8-120 watts!)

I have the PHAT MOD and I love it. I look forward to hearing what your experience will be with that preamp.

 

[rabies]

I heard today from a forum member that this preamp is noisy (so is the JMP-1 with high gain) so he recommended getting a Mark V instead....

 

[MesaGod666]

I heard today from a forum member that this preamp is noisy (so is the JMP-1 with high gain) so he recommended getting a Mark V instead....

lol...ok? The only reason why it would be noisy is if it's competing with a grounded poweramp. If this is the case, then all you would have to do is flip the TRIAXIS power switch up to LIFT and the noise should go away. If it doesn't then make sure that the power conditioner is working properly.

 

[tedsticle]

I think $900 and above is too high for a used Triaxis. I think anything used should drop in price to a little over half of what it was sold for new. I bought mine new for only $1,499. That was 10 years ago though, so did the prices keep rising on them? I've been trying to snag another one on ebay for awhile, but people keep bidding crazy.

 

[Danimal]

[the MESA techs call it the PHAT MOD is because the bass is fuller and tighter on LD2Y and LD2R

1) They call it the "fat mod"
2) it doesn't affect LD2 in any way at all

 

[ando]

I think $900 and above is too high for a used Triaxis. I think anything used should drop in price to a little over half of what it was sold for new. I bought mine new for only $1,499. That was 10 years ago though, so did the prices keep rising on them? I've been trying to snag another one on ebay for awhile, but people keep bidding crazy.

Yes, they did keep rising in price. $2000 is the lowest I've seen a new one for. That makes $900 a good price according to your own formula. That aside, things are worth whatever the market values them to be. You can't apply a formula for the general buying market - there are too many factors at play, the availability and perceived value being chief among them. It's fine to have such a buying policy for yourself though. Many collectible things fetch many times what they were originally worth. You can bet that once Mesa discontinues the Triaxis, they will rise in value very quickly.

 

[ljbarbeau]

I heard today from a forum member that this preamp is noisy (so is the JMP-1 with high gain) so he recommended getting a Mark V instead....

What?
is he talking about a triaxis? his must be broken. you dont even need a noise gate on them thats how noisy it is.. Thats the first time I hear triaxis and noisy in the same sentence...

 

[MesaGod666]

[the MESA techs call it the PHAT MOD is because the bass is fuller and tighter on LD2Y and LD2R

1) They call it the "fat mod"
2) it doesn't affect LD2 in any way at all

You are correct sir. I was mistaken. I just called MESA and verified that it is the FAT MOD and it only affects LD1RED to make it sound more like the gain stage of a RECTO in Vintage mode.

 

[RectoStudioGuy]

I heard today from a forum member that this preamp is noisy (so is the JMP-1 with high gain) so he recommended getting a Mark V instead....

What?
is he talking about a triaxis? his must be broken. you dont even need a noise gate on them thats how noisy it is.. Thats the first time I hear triaxis and noisy in the same sentence...

Never heard a noisey Triaxis

 

[Danimal]

it only affects LD1RED to make it sound more like the gain stage of a RECTO in Vintage mode.

Yeah, that was the theory because people kept saying the original recto board was too "harsh." I don' tknow, I've had both TriAxis versions and there's no contest: no fat mod nails the Recto and with fat mod was too "flubby" (is that a word? LOL)

 

[ando]

it only affects LD1RED to make it sound more like the gain stage of a RECTO in Vintage mode.

Yeah, that was the theory because people kept saying the original recto board was too "harsh." I don' tknow, I've had both TriAxis versions and there's no contest: no fat mod nails the Recto and with fat mod was too "flubby" (is that a word? LOL)

Actually, both the Non-fat and fat versions of the Recto were supposed to be Vintage Mode Rectos. The fat mod was just meant to sound "fatter" than the non-fat - but most people didn't like it. To me, a Recitifier isn't a fat sound to begin with. It's actually kind of thin because it cuts a lot of mid-range frequencies. The original non-fat is more along the lines of the original Rectifier IMO.

I have to agree though Danimal, the non-fat Recto is very good. It's the closest replication I've ever had of a real Recto. Much better than any modeler I've ever had. I think it works great for metal riffs. Hate it for solos though - but then again, I don't like any rectifier sound for solos. That's why the Triaxis is such a good machine. I find I need to use a noise gate with LD1Red though: it is the one noisy channel of the Triaxis.

 

[rabies]

well according to the manual, @ 14.3 inches, the Triaxis is too deep to fit in my current 4 space Gator rack (the JMP-1, G Major, Korg tuner, and Monster 2500 power center all fit fine currently).

so that means I need to purchase a new rack if I purchase the Triaxis or purchase a different preamp that will fit in my current rack.

hmmm???

 

[rabies]

are there any other preamps in the $1000 or less range (used) that would sound good with my Rivera S120 stereo power amp? thx.

 

[rabies]

this Engl head is badass for $749 US (includes efx loop!):

http://www.rig-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=75174&start=0

 

[Turumbar82]

this Engl head is badass for $749 US (includes efx loop!):

http://www.rig-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=75174&start=0

ENGL also has the E530 preamp. It's cheap brand new. It's $599 and you can find them used for around $450. Now it's not a Triaxis. It's not midi and doesn't have patches. Your g-major could control it's channels though. It also only has 2 preamp tubes like the JMP-1.

The Triaxis and the JMP-1 are more versatile than the ENGL but the ENGL does sound really good.