Just got Mark V and need a little help

[barryswanson]

Hi guys i have tried searching for this before i asked but no luck. Anyway I have two 4x12 cabs one Marshal 1960 and one Orange PPC412, the amp sounds great through the Marshall at 8 ohms but the Orange sounds like ****. As you some of you might already know the orange only has two 16 ohm inputs in parallel so you can daisy chain it to another cab. I know if i set my Marshall to 16 ohms and daisy chain it too the orange i get 8 ohms impedance in total. But I would like to know how so many guys I have read about on the net get great bass out of an Orange. I know if i was too run the Orange only i would plug it into the 8 ohm output on the head but it really lacks oomph. What am I doing wrong? Do you plug two cables from the head into the orange cab? I'm afraid to try this because I think it might short out.

 

[bdubbs]

I run 8 ohm output to a 16ohm cab. This is said to be fine in the manual and sounds good!

 

[barryswanson]

Yeah I have tried that its ok but not as much bottom end as my Marshall cab at 8 ohms. Thinking about getting Mesa cab just not sure which one would suit best. Any ideas anyone? I'm after a bit more chunk.

 

[bdubbs]

Yeah I have tried that its ok but not as much bottom end as my Marshall cab at 8 ohms. Thinking about getting Mesa cab just not sure which one would suit best. Any ideas anyone? I'm after a bit more chunk.

Thats because the marshall cab has G12T75 speakers which have a LOT of bottom. The vintage 30s in the orange cab are more mid focused.

 

[SteveO]

Yeah I have tried that its ok but not as much bottom end as my Marshall cab at 8 ohms. Thinking about getting Mesa cab just not sure which one would suit best. Any ideas anyone? I'm after a bit more chunk.

Thats because the marshall cab has G12T75 speakers which have a LOT of bottom. The vintage 30s in the orange cab are more mid focused.

My Recto 2x12(V30s) has plenty of bottom end to it, I think the cabinet size may be an issue here to some degree.

 

[bdubbs]

Yeah I have tried that its ok but not as much bottom end as my Marshall cab at 8 ohms. Thinking about getting Mesa cab just not sure which one would suit best. Any ideas anyone? I'm after a bit more chunk.

Thats because the marshall cab has G12T75 speakers which have a LOT of bottom. The vintage 30s in the orange cab are more mid focused.

My Recto 2x12(V30s) has plenty of bottom end to it, I think the cabinet size may be an issue here to some degree.

Orange Cabs are supposed to have crazy bottom end also. The ohm mismatch shoudn't really make that much a difference. Power tubes pretty new? My amp is super punchy throughout the whole spectrum. Are you running in 90 watt?

 

[barryswanson]

Yeah amp is brand new so tubes should be good. I have tried 90 watts but it just lacks that something extra I crave. I ordered a new recto over size slant cab so that should be here by the end of the week. Hopefully it does the trick.

 

[UncleBobo]

Just make sure you're getting your "low end" via the 5-band and not from the bass knob for the channel you're cranking. The bass/mid/treb knobs for each channel are pre-gain so if you crank the bass there, it will get gorilla-farty-flubby rather than focused and punchy.

I play an SG with 57 classics through my Mark V into an old Marshall cab with greenback 25-watt G12M's and I have plenty of thump

 

[screamingdaisy]

I have a pair of Orange 4x12s. I don't like them with high gain amps and when loaded with Vintage 30s I don't find them particularly bassy. I think they sound kind of thin and harsh. That said, they sound really good when mic'd up.

 

[barryswanson]

Yeah unclebobo I have the sliders sorted. I agree with you screamingdaisy they do sound thin, I guess you really need to crank them being 16 ohms to get those cones moving. Hopefully the Mesa voiced V30's have that mesa secret sauce that will match my Mark v nicely. It's a shame that nearly every other model line Mesa makes has a range of cabs to go with it except the Mark V. I can't find anything anywhere in relation to what cab Mesa recommends for the Mark v.

 

[screamingdaisy]

Yeah unclebobo I have the sliders sorted. I agree with you screamingdaisy they do sound thin, I guess you really need to crank them being 16 ohms to get those cones moving. Hopefully the Mesa voiced V30's have that mesa secret sauce that will match my Mark v nicely. It's a shame that nearly every other model line Mesa makes has a range of cabs to go with it except the Mark V. I can't find anything anywhere in relation to what cab Mesa recommends for the Mark v.

The Recto series.

The compact and widebody series were originally developed for Marks, but they were developed with blues rock and jazz in mind. If you're going for more modern hard rock or metal sounds then the Recto series should be right up your alley (or, alternatively a Marshall 1960 loaded with G12T-75s).

 

[barryswanson]

So I got my Standard Rectifier slant cab on Friday and wow what a difference ! Big and chunky sounding how I like it. Today I found myself playing through channel 2 a lot on Mark 1 mode. It's a shame channel 3 doesn't have balls like this.