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[vae]

I loved the IIC+ setting so much on my V that I had to check out the real deal!

I am actually having a tough time translating from the V to the IIC+ in terms of getting a nice aggressive crunch w/ bite. If anyone can give me some example settings or point me towards where I could check out some that would be great!

So far the feel/dynamics of the amp are completely different from the V -- but it may because I am a complete newbie on dialing this thing in. Will post more when I get used to the amp and I probably will end up with more questions ;p.

Obligatory pictures!

 

[Scottyyy]

That's one of the cleanest IIC+ I've seen. Very very nice.

Congrats on the new amp.

 

[dodger916]

Very pretty girl!

Try this, and note that near the bottom is a link for the settings sheet: http://homepage.mac.com/mesaboogie/MarkIIC.html

Here's the users manual: http://www.mesaboogie.com/manuals/Mark II-C Manual - Maintenance & Repair.pdf

 

[dodger916]

I loved the IIC+ setting so much on my V that I had to check out the real deal!

So far the feel/dynamics of the amp are completely different from the V -- but it may because I am a complete newbie on dialing this thing in.

No, you are right on! I owned a Mark IV first, and as soon as I played a Mark II I knew my middle-aged ears had found what I felt the Mark IV was missing. To me it's that "feel" that makes Mark IIs special and a continual source of inspiration to me and others. It's that feel that prompts many here to describe the C+ as a musical instrument, something you don't "play through", but "play" like a guitar (gts). That feel is a function of a simpler signal path and older components. It's that feel that commands the $ premium!

 

[vae]

Thanks guys and thanks for the links dodger, helped out a lot actually.

I'm so close to nailing my rhythm sound now -- this amp is absolutely KILLER. After spending more time with her the more I realize that a good part of the difference between this and the IIC+ mode on the V is the feel/dynamics (seeing what you said dodger). I dialed in something close to what I was using on the V -- it sounds similar but there is just something in the original that the V isn't copping and I can't put my finger on it.

Going to play the IIC+ for the majority of the day today and switch back to the V after my hands and mind have gotten used to the IIC+. I have a feeling that the V is going to feel more "choked" in comparison.

 

[Elpelotero]

Go to the rigs and tones section, then into the metallica sub-section, and you will find their studio settings for the Mark IIC+. Those settings have all the bite you'll need.

 

[dodger916]

I'm so close to nailing my rhythm sound now -- this amp is absolutely KILLER. After spending more time with her the more I realize that a good part of the difference between this and the IIC+ mode on the V is the feel/dynamics (seeing what you said dodger). I dialed in something close to what I was using on the V -- it sounds similar but there is just something in the original that the V isn't copping and I can't put my finger on it.

Going to play the IIC+ for the majority of the day today and switch back to the V after my hands and mind have gotten used to the IIC+. I have a feeling that the V is going to feel more "choked" in comparison.

I actually prefer the rhythm tones of the C+ more than the lead tones, preferring the Lead tones of the Mark IV. What's gained with the newer Mark IV & V technology is versatility; obviously they cover more ground than the C+, but that comes at a price. The indescribable feel/dynamics you identify in the C+ is that price, or at least it is for me. As George (gts) says, you have to play it to understand it, and you have to understand that it is not relevant for everyone.

 

[Boogiebabies]

Put it through a Mesa 4X12 with V30's and tell us what a different beast it is !!!

Congrats.

 

[dodger916]

Thanks guys and thanks for the links dodger, helped out a lot actually.

I'm so close to nailing my rhythm sound now -- this amp is absolutely KILLER. After spending more time with her the more I realize that a good part of the difference between this and the IIC+ mode on the V is the feel/dynamics (seeing what you said dodger). I dialed in something close to what I was using on the V -- it sounds similar but there is just something in the original that the V isn't copping and I can't put my finger on it.

Going to play the IIC+ for the majority of the day today and switch back to the V after my hands and mind have gotten used to the IIC+. I have a feeling that the V is going to feel more "choked" in comparison.

One more thing, vae. Once you get comfortable with amp, you can start a new addiction: Tube swapping! I was able to further refine the sound to my taste with different preamp tubes, especially older vintage tubes. When you are ready to head down that rabbit hole (like Neo in The Matrix!), start asking about different tubes and the affect on tone. If you are not yet aware, this forum contains an incredible knowledge and experience base for tubes. But first things first. It's here if and when you are willing....

 

[vae]

Haha damnit with the tube swapping, you guys are pushing me into the "cork-sniffery" boundaries.

All joking aside, I was very against the whole "cork-sniffery" attitude when it came to guitar gear. My head used to spin when I'd read lengthy discussions on how certain minute things affect tone and frankly I thought it was ridiculous and a competition to see who can out "snob" the other -- I mean can these minute variations really be heard and felt? I was very skeptical.

The IIC+ has changed my attitude quite significantly.

I was so excited when I first got my V because of all the hype surrounding it and once I got it I did love it -- but then seeing how many people were disappointed with the Mark modes (most being long time Mark series owners) I thought these guys either didn't take the time to really try and dial in the amp or they are trying to find excuses to belittle the amp for whatever reason. I now see why these points have been brought up and so far they seem to be valid. So that being said, tube swapping may by in my future ;p.

I have been a long time Boogie user (Triaxis/2:90 for several years and a Road King II for a week) and have found my permanent home.

Anyway, back to playing!

Boogiebabies -- ahead of you!

Will do a better review after the honeymoon period is over and such. Thanks for all the info guys!

 

[Fronzil]

ive had my MKIV for almost 5 months, and its amazing, i get endless good tones out of this thing...literally endless..on every channel..the only other mesa amp that calls to me as much as the IV, is the IIC+..i must play one someday

 

[dodger916]

ive had my MKIV for almost 5 months, and its amazing, i get endless good tones out of this thing...literally endless..on every channel..the only other mesa amp that calls to me as much as the IV, is the IIC+..i must play one someday

Careful...that's how the addiction starts! But seriously, everybody should play all Boogies, and all amps and guitars for that matter. We are fortunate to live in a time of such inspiring musical instruments that are so readily accessible.

 

[lesterpaul]

since you have both the V and a C+-time to revisit the shootout thread for some settings-what tubes are you running in the C+?nice one.. 8)
http://forum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=37701

 

[vae]

I'm running all 6L6's right now -- the new baby has left the nest for a month though! Just drove to Petaluma to drop it off to have Mike B. check it out and possibly do a minor Mod

After I talked to the amp tech in the customer service area (Rich, super nice guy -- hell everyone at Mesa are awesome) I was stepping out and someone who looked really familiar came in and said "now thats a old good looking amp!"

When I was out the door I realized it was RS, should have gotten a picture hah.

 

[JOEY B.]

You "left coast" guys have all the luck (fun). :evil: