Give me all the info on the Dual Recto

[fpoon]

I just want to know most of the pros and cons of the DR. What can it do, what sounds can it achieve, etc. Thanks.

 

[ToneAddictJon]

Pros- Can achieve nearly any tone you can think of. Over the top amounts of gain, treble, mids, bass, and presence. Incredibly sensitive controls. Parallel loop so minimal tone suckage, but use of tremolo and other "global" effects don't work properly. Rectifier selection. Looks killer on stage with lights flying off the chrome.

Cons- Hard to dial in, because of over the top amounts in the controls and so many variations (rectifier, modes, tubes). No series loop.

Pretty much everything that's a pro can be a con and everything that's a con can be a pro. I would say the roadster or roadking is better suited if your sound depends heavily on effects. I've found plugging my DR into my recto 2x12 cab and my 1x12 open back with EV gives a much tighter/punchier sound than any of the other recto cabs.

 

[Elpelotero]

It can't do ultra tight riffing like the Mark4 can. Some people may disagree, but it's the bottom line truth. You can get close by adding pedals and such, but it's not the same. Also, it is not the best amp for smooth creamy leads. That is a job also best left to a Mark4. (or 3, or 2, etc).

 

[ToneAddictJon]

It can't do ultra tight riffing like the Mark4 can. Some people may disagree, but it's the bottom line truth. You can get close by adding pedals and such, but it's not the same. Also, it is not the best amp for smooth creamy leads. That is a job also best left to a Mark4. (or 3, or 2, etc).

I would completely disagree with this (I own both) it just takes longer to dial in the DR than the Mark IV. You also need a different cab than a recto 4x12 to dial in those sounds.

 

[wildrat666]

Ok the dual recto can be tight. you must know how to dial it.
I use el 34 ´s and a maxon od 808 in front of my mesa dual recto 3 chan.
it sounds very tight.

 

[ibanez4life SZ!]

Dual Recto can't do what a Mark IV does.....NO WAY.

I've spent a day dialing my Mark IV, and I'm already getting better tones than I could with my DR in two years.

Tighter..clearer...more dynamic...it's simply a better amp IMO.

Thread about my new amp to come :wink:

 

[ToneAddictJon]

Dual Recto can't do what a Mark IV does.....NO WAY.

I've spent a day dialing my Mark IV, and I'm already getting better tones than I could with my DR in two years.

Tighter..clearer...more dynamic...it's simply a better amp IMO.

Thread about my new amp to come :wink:

What cab did you use with your recto??? That makes all the difference with them.

 

[Abhorred]

And a Mark IV can't do what a Recto does; it's a two way street.

It's all about personal preference, here.

Dual Recto can't do what a Mark IV does.....NO WAY.

I've spent a day dialing my Mark IV, and I'm already getting better tones than I could with my DR in two years.

Tighter..clearer...more dynamic...it's simply a better amp IMO.

Thread about my new amp to come :wink:

 

[domct203]

Oh Boy, here we go again. :lol:

Dom

 

[clutch71]

Dr's may be difficult to come by on Saturn so head over to planet Earth and give a couple a try. If you like Tool, Soundgarden, System of a Down, Incubus, Clutch, or 311 they are great.

Already having a Mark IVB you may be looking for something to complement it. I do not find Duals to be hard to dial. I pretty much set it and forget it. I will adjust the Presence and gain to taste but pretty much leave everything else around noon.

Like most Mesa's I've tried they sound the best cranked. Pulling tubes as some do, just doesn't tame them like a 50w ROV or the 50w selection on a Roadster or RK.

Cab selection is very important w/ V30's seemingly the premier speaker of choice. Most prefer a Stiletto cab, Orange, or Marshall 1960 A or B to the full size Recto cab. I played mine recently through a Stiletto cab and think I may pick one up over my newer Recto standard slant. Does very well with a 2x12 Recto cab BTW.

I find the channel assignable loop to be a plus as I run most effects solely on the clean channel and dial the send and return to taste.

The ROV by the way is a nice affordable version of the DR. If your looking for that DR sound and money is a factor don't overlook one.

Good luck.

 

[siggy14]

Totaly agreed, I love my recto for my recto sounds, I love my Mark for my Mark sounds, cant say one is better then the other.

As to the recto not being that tight, I get it close to as tight as my Mark IV, however the mark does have better harmonics and is better for soloing. However the recto is a great choice if you play mostly rythem with a solo here and there.

Like I have always said and people seem to be agreeing with me now, the smaller traditional, or now known as the stiletto cab is so much better in keeping it tighter. I prefer the V30's.

And a Mark IV can't do what a Recto does; it's a two way street.

It's all about personal preference, here.

Dual Recto can't do what a Mark IV does.....NO WAY.

I've spent a day dialing my Mark IV, and I'm already getting better tones than I could with my DR in two years.

Tighter..clearer...more dynamic...it's simply a better amp IMO.

Thread about my new amp to come :wink:

 

[Abhorred]

I know, I know! I'm sorry! :lol:

Don't get me wrong, I think that the Mark IV is a bloody fantastic amp, and it's definitely in my "to get" list. That said, they each do separate things, and I'm reluctant to let the polarized Mark = Good, Recto = Bad comments go without at least some counter argument.

Oh Boy, here we go again. :lol:

Dom

 

[fpoon]

Thanks guys. I wasn't going to buy the DR anyway since I know the Mark IV is all I need, I just wanted to know the basics about the amp. Are there any other bad things about it? Basically what I understand is the DR is tough to dial in for some but overall a good amp.

 

[ibanez4life SZ!]

I used a Traditional 4x12 with each of them.

Idk....I've been playing the Mark like crazy, and I feel like the Mark can do everything the Recto does, and it does it 10x better....I'm getting such an aggressive grind that it's not even funny. :twisted:

 

[vertigo_]

why can't we all get along! To me mark has a older sound.

 

[fpoon]

Hey ibanez, didn't read your first post, congrats man! I know you've been waiting for it for sooooo long. You're gonna have a lot of fun with the IV.

 

[Botch]

I don't understand the Mark IV hype at all. Sure they're good amps but I much prefer my Dual Rec.

 

[siggy14]

No matter how much you dial that Mark IV, you will never get it to sound like a recto. The recto has a distint tone, if you love that tone then go for the recto.

Honestly I love my Mark IV as well, but it will never get the amount of bottem end (but in a band you dont need that much) as my recto. The mark will just not get that modern recto tone either that we all know and love, or hate depending on the person.

For a Thick huge sound I love the Recto, for tight aggessive distortion i love my Mark IV.

I used a Traditional 4x12 with each of them.

Idk....I've been playing the Mark like crazy, and I feel like the Mark can do everything the Recto does, and it does it 10x better....I'm getting such an aggressive grind that it's not even funny. :twisted:

 

[Elpelotero]

For a Thick huge sound I love the Recto, for tight aggessive distortion i love my Mark IV.

exactly. that's all it really is. Are apples better than oranges? Depends who you ask.

I have one of each because each is the master at doing what it is supposed to do.

 

[lockbody]

... To me mark has a older sound.

Ha! My first thought the first time I fired up my Mk IV.

"OMG! :shock: The '90's!!!"